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[quote=Anonymous] :!: [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs. [/quote] Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight. [/quote] And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.[/quote] Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.[/quote] Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.[/quote] What is the link between GLP1 usage and increased cardiac risk, or increased gastric cancer risk? [/quote] There isn't one. Did you mean to insinuate otherwise?[/quote] No, I'm literally asking the poster above me who says "The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. " [/quote] Be patient. It took 10+ years before fen-phen was pulled as a combo for weight loss. It was a miracle drug! just as glps are being touted. Glps work by slowing digestion. There is a reason why we eliminate our waste typically between 24 and 72 hours after eating. Can you connect the dots, or are you going to wait for the find out stage of this? [/quote] GLPs don't "work by slowing digestion", if you believe that then how can you also believe the tales of rampant diarrhea? And they've been on the market for WELL more than 10 years, so what's the next goalpost?[/quote] I have no skin in the game but there are three well documented effects of the drugs and one significantly delayed stomach emptying. It's one of the clearest mechanisms for delayed hunger. (It's also why I am not envious of anyone that feels they need to take it. I would prefer to just not eat than have that over full feeling. I hate it and hate not pooing enough.) I find the research really interesting. Like why would this synthetic hormone actually have benefits for heart health, slow digestion, incresae insulin in the presence of glucose. And why do so many people in our society now need a synthetic hormone? (Would be nice if 1/2 the glp research was root cause.)[/quote] You are now asserting 20 years of research has been falsified? You are crazy.[/quote] The research is based on obese and/ or diabetic patients. It is crazy to believe, with no evidence or studies in a healthy population, that you would get the same benefits and health risk reduction as a very sick population, whose lifespans are already threatened. [/quote] Type 2 diabetes and obesity run strongly in my family. I feel like a ticking time bomb. Since diet and exercise has failed, I would rather use these drugs now to help keep my weight under control and reduce- if not practially eliminate- my risk of becoming diabetic and obese in the future. What's the saying? Prevention is better than the cure?[/quote]
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