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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like this is the general consensus of the thread: Those who are hyper-obsessed with rankings & prestige over academics & post-grad outcomes tend to think lower of UChicago because they attract the majority of their students from the ED pool (which, in their minds, [u]must[/u] make the school an undeserving T10). Those who know about academics, job placement, and support their children no matter what college they fall in love with think UChicago is an excellent school that equips students with the skills they need to do extremely well in their future. Signed, a concerned UChicago student from the DC area.[/quote] I think this is generally correct. For those of us who are a little older, Chicago was always known as the "intellectual" school. We visited three years ago - and it still seemed like one of the smart schools. Good vibe. Smart kids. Generally very good professors. Tons of opportunities. Great city. Very nice campus. [b]But private school families seem to have some disdain for it. [/b]Personally, I think Chicago should embrace their roots and be the intellectual school, never mind the Sidwell and Dalton families. Chicago has raised their profile enough in recent years. They should remember their identity - and be the difficult, passionate, intense, nerd school that made Chicago Chicago. [/quote] No one has distain for it. Everyone thinks of it as a highly intellectual place. We are simply saying (for the one millionth time) that Chicago routinely takes kids with middle-of-the-class GPAs whereas the other top15 schools do not. At our school, college counseling will suggest Chicago as a sure-thing ED2 for any top kid who was rejected ED1/SCEA from another top20 school. They will also suggest Chicago for families who want prestige and/or a high academic school but have a kid without top grades. Scoir/Naviance do not lie. Chicago takes kids down to a 3.5 at our school every year. As such, it has lost some of it's sparkle. As the saying goes, "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member." Chicago suffers from some of this at top privates. [/quote] Again, that may be true at your private. Our DMV private sends 3-4 kids to UChicago (out of 80-90) every year. The students who are encouraged to apply are top notch. Last year, they were all in the top 10 percent of the graduating class, with average SAT/ACT of 1540/35 (per Scoir). The rest of the top ten kids get into Ivy Plus schools, so it is truly the case that the UChicago students self-select into applying there. [/quote] p.s. At our private, it’s Dartmouth, Cornell and UPenn that take middle-of-the-GPA-distribution kids, not UChicago. [/quote] Dartmouth, Cornell and UPenn will take 3.5 GPAs from your DMV school? Unhooked? Name the school please!![/quote] So far.this year, Harvard took 3, UPenn took 7, Cornell took 4, Stanford took 4 and Columbia took 3 from HW. So all of those kids are top 10%? How many kids in a HW class? Already.in the 20%, no? UChicago only has 2. All 7.of the Penn admits are.#1-5? Please![/quote] No Princeton?[/quote]
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