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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The analogy of doctors and dying cancer patients basically says that it's an act of God, and that there's nothing the doctor can possibly do to change the outcome.

Same with farmers and drought.  There's nothing they can do to affect the outcome.

So basically, that analogy means there is absolutely nothing possible that DCPS can ever do to improve the lot of its students.   It's the Will of God that students fail to master the material.

That is what BOTH of those analogies tell me.

You are truly un-be-frickin-lievable.[/quote]

And to continue that line of reasoning: If there is absolutely nothing possible that can be done, why bother with teachers? Why not just drive a pickup to the nearest Home Depot parking lot and pick up a bunch of day laborers instead?

I'll accept that IMPACT is a poor tool for measuring teacher effectiveness, that good teachers can score low and bad teachers can score high. But I also believe that teacher effectiveness exists, that there are better teachers and worse teachers, and that the quality of teaching has a dramatic impact on outcomes for students.

Sadly, so often when teachers rail against IMPACT, they don't complain about a flawed measuring tool, they complain about the very notion of trying to measure teacher effectiveness (and presumably, by measuring it encourage it).  And incredibly, many don't seem to understand the difference, or why it matters.

I can respect someone who says that they have no problem with evaluating effectiveness, but that IMPACT doesn't do that. I have zero respect for someone -- in any profession -- who says "what I do can't be measured."[/quote]

Winner.[/quote]

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