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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^ huh?

What made you stop exercising pre-HRT?

I’ve been an athlete my entire life and workout 6 days/week and I’m 55- no HRT.

Just curious to what was correlated w/ your inability to exercise pre-HRT and what changed after it 
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So much joint pain, stiffness like I’ve never had in my life, quick to injure myself, and recovery took forever. Felt like I was moving like the walking dead. Constant PT.

Estrogen has made movement easier — like my joints and muscles are more supple. Apparently musculoskeletal effects are a big issue in some menopausal women. Apparently I am one of them. [/quote]

Are you telling me that aging men don’t experience joint pain and stiffness? Most of the comments make zero sense. It’s not all about estrogen. When you stop moving, you become move stiff. You exacerbated your problems by dropping exercise: [/quote]

As someone who didn’t stop, the joint pain and inflammation is real and is beyond just “aging” that can compare to men getting as well. For those going through frozen shoulder and other menopausal events, your pain is real and comments from others can be hurtful.[/quote]

I had two frozen shoulders and fixed them through a slow process of weight lifting and increasing activity. The fact is, the impact of HRT on joint pain (even if it exists) is likely MUCH less than exercise and diet. There is no easy fix and HRT is clearly being marketed towards American women gullible enough to believe that there is. The only easy fix in medicine right now is probably GLPs. [/quote]

The only thing that “fixes” a frozen shoulder is time. You can’t do anything with a frozen shoulder that is useful until it reaches the “unfreezing” stage.

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That wasn’t my experience. I had two frozen shoulders in a row and the second one healed much more quickly with aggressive PT that included weight lifting (not just tiny stretches). More importantly, consistent lifting totally healed both shoulders so I can swim again. The first shoulder lingered with pain and reduced range of motion for years; the second one (treated with strength training) healed much more quickly. [/quote]

I also had two frozen shoulders and weightlifting caused more pain. The PT with a doctorate said I could keep doing PT during the frozen stage if I really wanted (PT does not work well in the frozen stage) but I might want to wait until the unfreezing.

It’s in the science that frozen shoulder does not heal until the unfreezing stage.

It is likely you were in the unfreezing stage when weightlifting “worked” and still in the freezing or frozen stage when it did not.

And, yes, it’s true that strength training helps “after,” which is the unfreezing or unfrozen stage, to increase rom.[/quote]

[b]Ffs that is not “the science.” But feel free to post a link to “the science” supporting that taking HRT is more effective than exercise/PT. [/b]

FWIW I was doing PT and strength training the whole course of the frozen shoulder. My very excellent DPT was quite insistent that I do strength exercises like overhead presses even when in pain. She explained that guarding the joint during the painful phase is actually what causes greater loss of ROM down the line. [/quote]

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