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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The solution is not to make kids provide AP scores. High school students should not have to take college classes in high school just to get into college.

The solution is not to require SAT tests. It’s not clear how well SATs predict anything.

The solution is to bring back SAT high school subject tests or the equivalent and require in-state UC students to get the equivalent of at least C’s on at least three of those.

The SAT subject tests used to measure something very practical: How well students had learned ordinary high school students.

Students obviously can improve their scores on subject tests by studying, and studying for those tests would give them something of value: literacy.

The UC schools could give exemptions for students with good reasoning and language skills along with learning disabilities in math. [/quote]

When it comes down to it, how different is the SAT math section or the AP Precalc exam from the old SAT subject exam in math, really? They’re all testing approximately the same thing. And the evidence is that as soon as the AP Precalc scores became available, the percent of FTFY UCSD students placing into math beyond Calculus I jumped right back up to where it was when they used the SAT (48%). For kids taking precalc by junior year, admissions is back on track.

And for what it’s worth, many people will disagree with your claim that precalculus somehow became a “college class” in 2024, just because the College Board decided to provide an AP exam for that material.[/quote]
DP. My junior got a 5 on AP Precalc last year and a 670 math on the August SAT. Either there's something not right about the SAT, or Precalc is too easy.[/quote]

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