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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like multiple things can be true at the same time

1) It is the only gift of COVID that it has such a relatively mild impact on small children

2) Parents can determine whatever vaccines they want visitors to have had before seeing their newborns. It is a joyful time but it is also a scary and terrifying time filled with decisions that seem extraordinarily consequential and very personal and so I just as a rule accept without argument any parameters a new parent wants to set out, regardless of my personal feelings on it, and if I don't want to meet those standards, I wait without complaint for a better time

3) It is ok for you OP to decide that you don't want to get the COVID vaccine and for your teens, especially teen boys to not get the COVID vaccine. I don't get it because my experiences with COVID have been mild but the shot has a significant and unpleasant effect on my cycle that lasts for months. I got the vaccine religiously in the midst of the crisis but stopped a year or two ago. And teen boys are at the highest risk for the known cardiovascular side effect, although they are also similarly at risk from those impacts if they get COVID so not an easy decision to make.

4) You can think all of the above and hate and disagree with everyone in charge right now and the entire 'health' movement that is putting an entire generation of children at risk of preventable diseases. [/quote]

Wow this comment aged so well…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/10/30/covid-19-pregnancy-autism-risk/
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I don't know why you think an article talking about how dangerous it is for a pregnant woman to get COVID is a gotcha to my comment, or relevant to this situation, which is about meeting a baby not a pregnant woman.[/quote]

Ok sorry I’ll help. You antivaxers? Who make up lies about how dangerous vaccines are? Are the people actually endangering babies. [/quote]

I am PP. I'm not an antivaxxer. I am stridently pro vaccine. Nothing I said was anti vax. My entire point 4, in case it wasn't clear, is alluding to the fact that we will irreparably harm a generation of children with anti vax nonsense. Having a reasoned take on the covid vaccine specifically based on my personal experience and data is not being anti vax. I am not anti covid vax! It is a miracle that saved millions of lives!

Acknowledging the relatively mild impact that COVID has on children under five, something that is in fact something that we should all be incredibly grateful for, is not anti vax. It is just true.

But I also said I would have no problems or criticisms with a parent who had this requirement. Having even handed reasonable takes reacted to in the way you are is just helping to entrench these raw milk drinking lunatics.[/quote]

You don’t get the vaccine because it upsets your cycle.  You don’t vaccinate your teen son because of complications which occur at the same rate from getting COVID. The pregnant woman who gets COVID from your decision not to be vaccinated or vaccinate your child now has a child with autism— why? Because of people like you. That is antivax in a nutshell no matter how much you tell yourself you're the reasonable one. [/quote]

If you think my getting every single recommended vaccine except the one that causes months of disruption to my life makes me an antivaxxer than your rigidity is hurting the cause. I have PCOS and already struggle with regularity and pain and so have specific considerations that I use to make health decisions, as does everyone. I don't have a teen son. I do understand people who weigh the risk/reward for that SPECIFIC cohort because of the increase in myocarditis. I understand both choosing to vaccinate and not choosing to vaccinate that cohort.

Pregnant women should all get the vaccine and I would vaccinate if I were pregnant. These are all data backed considerations. This is the whole problem with our society today, if you're not 110% on the party line than you are no better than the worst possible caricature of the other side imaginable. You and I probably agree on 98% of things but COVID vaccines and how we talk to people on the internet are apparently too large a gap to overcome.[/quote]

Oh wow look at that, long COVID also disrupts cycles for months! Good thing you didn’t get a shot though.

https://www.sciencealert.com/long-covid-could-mess-with-menstruation-in-a-horrid-feedback-loop[/quote]

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