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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][img][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At Alabama, in the humanities, at least history, the most powerful professors (including head of department) are Ivy League phds from the north, particularly New York. Well-run school with a lot of money for research (they use sports money) so they attract really good professors. Amazing school. [/quote] That’s nice. But why suffer living in Tuscaloosa to get access to Ivy League professors? Many universities up north have Ivy League professors, and you don’t have to live in depressing Alabama. [/quote] I think the point is that Alabama professors are not parochial and southern, but bring national/international, diverse perspectives. It’s a surprisingly impressive place. [/quote] This. My kid goes to Bama and one of their favorite professors grew up in the dc metro area and went to a top private HS in dc before going on to a fancy university. Other favorite profs are from all over. And the campus is the quintessential college environment but bigger/better/nicer. They are pouring money into the school at an unparalleled level and it shows. The strip and downtown area ooze small town charm (although Ole Miss wins when it comes to the most charming town vibe). The locals and students are friendly, fit, and fun. And the parent group is ridiculously friendly and helpful. There are local parents who will literally pick up your kid from the airport or take them soup when they are sick. It’s not unusual for girl moms to post their kid needs help moving heavy furniture and boy moms to send their son over with a buddy to help. I think students from the north who head to schools like Bama are getting a far more diverse experience than others. There is a broad spectrum of people and beliefs, and kids must learn to get along…and they do. PS - There is a lot of wealth on campus. My kid knows students whose families own private planes. I think most dcum parents would be very surprised if they bothered to tour Bama. I encourage you to tour during the school year. [/quote] Same experience. Visited on a whim, no expectation and was blown away. DS is now a senior there and he leaves with two publications in serious science journals, a job offer, a diverse world view and having enjoyed every minute of his time there (he is not Greek). His friends are headed to top med schools, engineering firms and phd programs. All educated for free! Alabama is spending like crazy and has healthy financials, unlike many — Stanford (laying off 700), Northwestern (laying off 400), Chicago is $6 billion in debt! [/quote] The school has a 4 year graduation rate of 56% that is horrifying. Graduates from the University of Alabama had a median earning of $37,400 within two years and $44,500 within six years of graduation. Great idea to pay OOS tuition to a school with those types of returns on investment. Rape is extremely high on campus. And just fantastic Alabama law that, requires sexual violence survivors to demonstrate "earnest resistance" during an assault. It is also one of the most dangerous campuses in the US for crime. [/quote] The reality is smart kids will do well wherever they go. Your bright kid from Dcumlandia is likely to get merit aid from Bama and will graduate in 4 years. What the other kids do isn’t your problem. Sometimes it’s better to be the big fish in the small pond. [/quote] And you are who your friends are. 56% graduation rate. There's a reason why they're throwing tons of merit money to practically anyone. Their marketing is all about how fun the school is, how great the greek life is, etc. Smart parents and kids make choices that look beyond that. [/quote] I’d love to see stats from a variety of schools re: 1. How many kids have anxiety, depression, etc. and are medicated 2. How many grads are single/not dating, unmarried, etc. 3. How many are happy, etc. The vibe at Bama is happy. [/quote] 56% graduation rate is not a sign of student happiness.[/quote] It is an undeniably happy place. The 6-year graduation rate is 74%. [/quote] So happy they don't want to leave, apparently.[/quote] Or they went to Bama to party and flunked out. The 74% 6-year graduation rate is still lower than the best SEC schools and if students are more focused on having fun than completing their degrees on time (while still having plenty of fun), I don't see that as a positive thing. [/quote]
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