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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For all the talk about how AOs are impressed by IBDP and the very challenging work, most admission results from IB schools are underwhelming, in particular for IB only schools. Some kids from IB magnet do fine, but even there, kids with 4.0 UW GPA, Multivariable, and an assortment of IB and AP classes, end up at UMD in the end. Maybe they weren’t stellar to begin with, but it just feels they would have done better in other settings.

Their mom comes back to report they were “well prepared for college” and “college was easy by comparison”. It’s UMD, and most kids of that caliber end up at more competitive colleges to begin with, where they’re challenged.
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This. The worst is when promising kids sacrifice their interest for the IB diploma and for a high gpa. Like when a kid enters high school in Algebra 2, works hard to do AP Calculus BC, AP Physics C, AP Computer Computer Science, before the IBDP years, then taps out and takes the easy way out with IB HL Math, IB HL Physics and IB Computer Science. Because they want to keep their goa ant 4.0 are led to believe the IB Diploma is worth something as a stamp of being well rounded, and a seal for “critical thinking, analysis and writing” total bs.

Of course despite the 4.0, and the many doubled up advanced classes (AP and IB) they won’t do better than UMD, because the upper tier colleges want to see the student challenged themselves in high school, and didn’t just grade grub easy As.

If you sacrifice your interest and passion for the IBDP, then no, the diploma is not worth it.
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You think IB HL Math and IB HL Physics  are easy? You are hilariously ignorant. Opinion disregarded.

As for "sacrifice your interest and passion" what are you babbling about? lmao. Most of the IB classes are in core subjects (English, math, science, language) that you have to take anyway, you're not sacrificing anything to do that.[/quote]

IB Math and Physics are similar to introductory first year classes albeit taught at slow pace of one semester per year if even that. Math doesn’t even cover the entire Calculus 1&2 and Physics is Algebra based. Go figure! They are not that hard, literally over one million take them each year. But when your degree is in French medieval literature, then it makes total sense why you believe they’re hard.

[b]Also taking AP Physics first, then IB Physics HL is grade grubbing. Or doing the same trick with computer science. It’s the same material, it shouldn’t even be allowed since they are duplicate courses. But, yeah, that’s what “exceptional” students do.[/b]

Someone that has no interest in foreign language or silly subjects like TOK, CAS, but still takes them to get the diploma, is sacrificing their interest for a worthless piece of paper that nobody cares about.[/quote]

Is that even possible? I’ve never heard of anyone doing this, what would be the point? They get credit for the same classes anyways. I doubt the high school counselor would even approve it.

UC Berkeley specifically say it’s duplicative work.

https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/admission-requirements/ap-exam-credits/#:~:text=Duplication%20with%20college%20courses,will%20award%20credit%20only%20once.

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I’ve read on different forums about doing IB Physics first, and then AP Physics because it’s calculus based, but in general people agree it’s a bad idea because of the overlap.

Doing AP Physics first, then IB Physics HL part of the Diploma is quite dumb. It makes no sense and surely is a major red flag for admissions, especially if you do the same with computer science.

It’s more acceptable to take AP Calculus BC and then do Math HL AA as part of the Diploma because there are some differences, but as others said, students often just go on to do dual enrollment in math instead and don’t pursue DP.

Taking a high school level class, then the AP/HL class is fine since they are considered prerequisites.[/quote]

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