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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a tall woman.  I've put up and taken down plenty of suitcases for other people, particularly the elderly.  I'm sympathetic as I have a 5'0" mom (tall Dad) and I've been getting stuff off shelves for her since I was 10.[/quote]

+1 as a tall man. I'm happy to help. It's also way more pleasant than going through life being angry at people about their luggage.[/quote]
Thank you.  Lots of really selfish people around here.  DH is very tall; I'm super short.  DH helps people he sees struggling, whether with their bags or in the grocery store trying to get stuff on the top  shelf.  He's a kind person.   My kids (17 and 20) are tall, and even they have helped people in the airplane with their bags.

If I saw a mom with a baby and toddler trying to deal with bags and such, I'd help her.    Aholes would just tell her that she shouldn't fly to go see her family.[/quote]

A mom with a baby and toddler is asking for trouble trying to carry all those bags and deal with all the kids. There’s a simple solution to check the bags. It’s stupid to make things harder than they have to be.[/quote]

You need formula, snacks, food, sippy cups, bottles, water for formula if its not liquid, diapers, wipes, clothing for everyone, medications, etc.

We were getting off our flight and a couple with a baby's flight was canceled and they were stranded about to finally get on board after about 14 hours at the airport and out of supplies. We saw them in a panic waiting for our stroller at the gate.   Thankfully, I had extra in my car at the airport so I could clean out my stuff and give it to them, but you always need to pack at least 2-3 times what you think you need as well.[/quote]

You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.[/quote]
Why on earth would you spend a fortune on diapers and other stuff at the airport  when you can bring extra.  I spend enough money on food at the airport. $20 for a burger and fries.  I can't imagine how much a pack of diapers would cost there [/quote]

Where on earth did I suggest you buy diapers at the airport? I specifically listed the things you should get at the airport and shockingly I didn’t say diapers or wipes. But if you’re trying to say you need 3 roll aboards worth of diapers, wipes and formula then you are full of shit. Maybe eat fewer burgers and fries for a start.[/quote]

NP (and one who is a very efficient competent traveler with and without kids).

1) No one said anything about bringing on 3 roll bags either if you’re keeping score in bringing up materials not in evidence! Nor was there any evidence this poster is fat so the already far over the line fat insult doesn’t even make sense in context.

2) You absolutely need spare clothes for kids and they do not always sell it at the airport and if they do it’s generally crazy expensive.

3) Snacks and food also very expensive at the airport. And they don’t sell formula.

4) I have never seen a bottle for sale at the airport or kids cups/gear which is how you get through the flight without making a mess

5) PP clearly described why you do need extra of everything if you don’t want to spend a ton of unnecessary money in case of delays/just a long travel da

6) Generally the required accoutrement is in a diaper bag (which is not tiny although not ridiculous), a carry on and a stroller. When you add the children in this can get overwhelming.

7) Helping people costs you nothing. No one walks through life without ever experiencing a moment when the kindness of a stranger can make a great impact, if you think you have you just haven’t had your eyes open.

Tell me you’ve never flown with kids without saying you’ve never flown with kids. Tell me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk without telling me you’re an unhappy ungenerous jerk.

And I’m really a brand np and my kids look like they’ve been trained at the factory line [b]in an airport they are all on point and we never hold anyone up.[/b] But the lack of humanity in this thread is why traveling has become such a garbage experience.

No one sits on their death bed regretting that time they helped an overwhelmed mom or elderly woman with their suitcase.[/quote]

BS. We all know who you are. You are the people we change lines to avoid being behind at TSA. [/quote]

No I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because my point is that that family you’re talking about also [b]has a right to travel [/b]and when I see people who need a hand I lend one I don’t sit there scowling at them like a modern day Ebeneezer Scrooge[/quote]
Whoop there it is. Your “right to travel” which a) doesn’t exist and b) doesn’t mean other people have to assist you. But that really just shows what an entitled a$$hole you are. You think it’s your right to demand others care for you like a child. No. You’re an adult and you’re responsible for yourself. The accommodation for this “right” is checking your damn bag.

How on earth are grown adults arguing that they have a “right” to be treated like a f**king child.[/quote]

DP. And you have no right to travel without being vaguely inconvenienced by other people, yet here you are raging about it.[/quote]

I would say the rager is the author of the 7 bullet point monologue in multiple paragraphs about how it’s just all so hard and nobody else has ever traveled with kids.[/quote]

My monologue was far less about how hard it is to travel (with or without kids) than it was about how people like you are ruining society by abandoning the social contract. The travel stuff was only because you claimed it would make sense for a parent to count on being able to buy bottles and spare outfits in the airport.[/quote]

Please quote where it was said to buy bottles in the airport. When you can’t find it are you big enough to admit you were wrong?[/quote]

I’ll admit I got that detail wrong by slightly misreading (embedding quote below)

[quote]You don't need 2-3x of clothes, water bottles, snacks and food. The airport sells all of that. Just the essentials which should fit in one small bag.[/quote]

I don’t think it changes the substance of my feedback/criticism[/quote]

So you overreacted to the idea that pointed out some things can be purchased on the other side of security if needed and didn’t justify bringing an excessive amount of things in a carryon that was beyond the capabilities of the traveler? Also what if you need all of this excess at a time when turbulence is happening and you can’t get it? An under-seat bag of essentials makes more sense.[/quote]

I don’t think I overreacted, that is your judgement. And I have responded far more calmly than you have.

Many posters have pointed out the importance of having a comprehensive bag if traveling with children (I was once stranded in nyc overnight without my luggage after missing a connection with two children under three and it was crucially important to have the basics). An airport is a terrible place to shop where everything is significantly more expensive and generally crappy quality, it’s an absurd suggestion. And would mean people were just walking with shopping bags instead of an organized suitcase.

You clearly don’t understand the complexities of traveling with kids if you cannot understand this. Or you are so wealthy as to not understand most Americans at all.

And generally this is not beyond the abilities of the traveler, just sometimes beyond the ability of one adult to manage at optimal efficiency. So others offer to help or they wait until the parents disabled person manages it.[/quote]

In what way have I not been calm? You don’t know you’re talking to at any one time. I have more children than you so this is all very amusing.[/quote]

How many children do I have? You know only how many I had during that layover.[/quote]

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