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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Has anyone done the analysis of percentages of 5s? I'm going to be honest and say that I am confident my UMC white kid with most statistical advantages you can name (parental education, married parents, etc) would get 4s anywhere, but a 5 might depend on the school/teaching. It's also a good way of judging schools that have a sizeable advanced cohort. Lots of the schools we are considering have kids peel off in 5th grade for charters, so I'd be particularly interested in how non-economically disadvantaged (white if it's the only proxy) 3rd and 4th or, if that's too complicated, just 4th graders do. But I'd also happily take any data related to 5s if anyone has pulled out the data.[/quote]

lol ok. Kids get 5s because they are motivated and focused and get how to take tests. It is not actually about teaching to the test. At that age you can’t really teach those abilities. [/quote]

Right. I don't care what my kid gets on the CAPE for the sake of it, so I don't want schools that teach to the test. I want schools with a large number of kids who get 5s so that there's a cohort to teach advanced material to.[/quote]

DCPS doesn't really do this, even with a large cohort of 5s.  [/quote]

I’ll correct above.  DCPS doesn’t do this because there are no kids getting 5’s at many schools.  
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I agree DCPS does not provide advanced material to advanced kids as part of their curriculum.

Individual teachers sometimes do, however.

But as previously noted, you can't find this out by looking at test scores because you don't know WHY kids at a particular school are getting 5s. Is it because the schools teachers are doing a particularly good job of offering advanced content to students who are ready for it? Or is it because parents at the school are paying for a lot of enrichment and tutoring? Or, another possibility: the school follows DCPS grade level curriculum in the classroom, but offers additional enrichment in math and ELA via after school programs or clubs which enables kids who are interested to work ahead?

You have to visit the school, talk to the faculty, talk to current and former families, etc. CAPE scores are the beginning of an inquiry, not the end.[/quote]

Fun little fact for you all- these tests offer exclusively grade level content (in math- this is harder to discern in ELA). Therefore, the kids scoring 5s do not have to know any above level content, but rather have to know grade level content at a deeper level. To me, this is far more important and indicative of their reasoning skills and overall mathematical prowess. It likely means that for kids getting 5s, they answered more of the "explain your reasoning" type questions correctly. I do not teach content above my grade level and yet get a pretty decent percentage of students scoring 5s.  Learning the content for the grade levels above is not all it is cracked up to be, especially if the reasoning and deeper understanding is lacking.[/quote]

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