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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot. [/quote]
I’m not as pessimistic.  To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be.  Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.[/quote]

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again. [/quote]

Trump is losing all demographics in polling right now except gen x. And he keeps digging himself in a bigger hole everyday with his crazy, erratic tweets, alienating us further from our allies, implementing very unpopular policies, etc, etc!

Do not see that helping Rs in the mid terms and beyond. [/quote]

How do you figure?

[b]Job approval for congressional Democrats hits all-time low: ‘Flat out terrible’[/b]
July 17, MSN

The job approval rating for congressional Democrats has plunged to another all-time low, with fewer than 2 in 10 Americans happy with their work on Capitol Hill.

Only 19% of registered voters approve of the way Democrats in Congress are handling their job, a Quinnipiac University Poll released Wednesday found.

The dismal rating for congressional Dems is the lowest ever recorded by the pollster, which first began asking the question in 2009.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/job-approval-for-congressional-democrats-hits-all-time-low-flat-out-terrible/ar-AA1IKeYG[/quote]

do you honestly think what people think of Democrats right now in a poll will be reflected when they go to vote? At the pace of insanity that is happening in the Republican Party right now? [/quote]

Honestly, you hear and read what you want to. You have no outside perspective. That's your problem, not mine.[/quote]

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