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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's a problem because inevitably non obese shell out billions of dollars to compensate for the incredible drain obese people are on our society.[/quote]

And obese people fund on a daily basis, billions of dollars to compensate for the incredible drain that old people, smokers, children and adults with various disabilities, premies etc. are on the system. Especially so as they are less likely to live long enough to actually get to enjoy the benefits of their hard works.

But who am I to quibble it's easier to openly discriminate against old people than it is children and premies with lifelong disabilities. [/quote]

The difference is "obese people" most likely can make a choice to not be obese.  Just like a smoker can make the choice to not smoke.  But old people and kids/people with many disabilities cannot do anything to change that.  See the difference?

Go purchase life insurance---if you are older, have an illness, are overweight, etc, they charge you more or simply won't insure you.  It's not discrimination, it's just how it works.  
So while everyone should have access to healthcare, it's not unfair to expect some to pay more.  I mean, if I purchase ACA plan now, at 50 I pay more than at 40, and it exponentially goes up until I turn 65 and can switch to medicare.  They do charge me more because of my aging.

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At the end of the day you might not like obese people, you may feel yourself morally superior to obese people, but the argument that they cost more to society than a premie, even if they manage to live independently, or an an old person who racks up millions of dollars (directly tax payer funded healthcare bills) in the last months of life.

Or the millions of people who make bad decisions every single day, and end up costing the system lots of and lots of money when a lifetime of bad decisions catches up with them.

That's life and the thing is maybe you get cancer and cost the system a lot of money and maybe it's because you chose to use pesticides on your lawn, combined with a bunch of other bad decisions you made over your life, like being a recreational drinker and being a woman, a few drinks a week, every week and in your youth you drank more than that, but you thought it was okay, because you maintained your weight and you worked out... but ooops now you have terminal breast cancer and... you want a few more months with the dogs and grands so you receive costly healthcare. Again argue you didn't cause your cancer all you want but if I follow your logic you did.

Do you judge cancer patients, the people who had herpes and it made them susceptible to lymphoma or HPV and now they have head and neck cancers? Do you judge the sober for 20 years mom who gets cirrhosis, you don't know she partied a little too hard in her youth, contracted Hep. They did something to cause their illnesses... they were participants in their eventual costly illnesses. No it's not so easy to judge them right, because they made bad decisions that one could argue had an element of immorality attached to them.

Like I said get back to me when you hit 55-65, and have outlived your genetic usefulness, or you get head/neck/oral cancer, breast, or lymphoma or something else.  I'll send you some cyanide pills, if you care so much about tax dollars, and being a drain on society do us all a favor and off yourself.[/quote]

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