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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Typical Stuy kid is a poor Asian immigrant who spent two years non-stop studying for the SHSAT as it is their ticket out. Most of these kids have minimal mainstream American people skills - they have not assimilated. And some of them aren’t really that smart - just good at that one test.

Many end up at SUNY/CUNY. Many of these would be eligible for tons of aid at Ivies but for some reason don’t apply.

Bronx Science has more Nobel laureates and is a slightly more normal version of Stuy. Kids are more normal and slightly more relaxed. Though there is a contingent of the immigrant kids who are viewed as failures for not getting into Stuy.[/quote]

What’s your evidence that Stuy kids lack social skills? I’ve met plenty who are terrific talented kids.  I wouldn’t put much credence in the viewpoint from an Internet rando who traffics in Asian stereotypes.  [/quote]

First of all, I said "most," "typical," etc. It is a huge school. I am not dumb enough to think all kids are like this. But a significant number are. There definitely are lots of great, fun, social, interesting kids there. But the presence of the other type is overwhelming.

I live in NYC. I seriously considered Stuy for my child. My child knows many kids who go there (and many who chose not to go there). I work near Stuy and see the kids every day (and as the parent of teenagers I know "normal behavior."). My child has many Asian friends who did not want to go to Stuy for the reasons I cited.

Stereotypes exist for a reason - there is a basis in truth. I agree that one must be very careful not to apply stereotypes, especially negative ones, to every member of a group when you first meet them.[/quote]

Stuy parent here.
When I mentioned to the PTA president that a family member ran an etiquette program for children in a major city, the PTA president, who is Chinese, asked me with big hopeful eyes if my family member could come to Stuy and run some courses on social skills.
As a Chinese person myself, I have to agree that many FOB Chinese lack social skills and that sure doesn't help their kids who are othered every single day of their life as an immigrant. 
The only Chinese etiquette that is socially enforced is deference to elders. 
Maintaining 'face' is so important that it trumps introspection and self awareness.[/quote]

Great idea on the social skills class - it would go a long way. These kids would be well served to study a little less and spend more time just being kids - watch TVs, play video games, etc. Unfortunately, there are a number who try to assimilate but are trying so hard that they fail miserably - appreciate the effort but they are misguided. By being at Stuy which has such a huge percentage of this type of kid, they think they can continue being this way - they need to leave their bubble.

I am not saying to throw away your culture and heritage - that would be horrible. But try to blend in a little more. One simple example - give your kid an American first name then honor your heritage with the middle name. Not that hard.[/quote]

What an idiotic post. People don’t need to name their kid an American first name -whatever that means-to fit your idea of what America is.  And if your idea of being a socially adept kid is that kids should spend more time watching TV and playing video games-I can only imagine what how your kids turned out…[/quote]

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