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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So I took the liberty of ordering a bunch of magnets to open this &$@! Pouch. Here is what works:

MEUOADA Rare Earth Magnet,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D6RBXT71?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Put pouch on magnet
Tap the button vigorously
It opens

We went through a few that didn’t work.

Good luck - my kid is one who would have to make a choice between missing a bus and unlocking the pouch and freak out. This pouch was an unnecessary source of anxiety and I feel happy to have defeated it. [/quote]

Sincere question:Why would you not let your kid deal with the natural consequence of not unlocking the phone?[/quote]

That is such a weird sincere question. What was the poor behavior that needed a consequence? Locking the phone or choosing not to miss the bus so that her parent needed to leave work to pick her up?

Neither is a choice that requires a consequence. I would recheck your idea of “natural consequences”. Natural consequences in our house - not doing homework and failing a test. Not wearing pants and being cold. Not bringing a snack and being hungry (on a short term). But following the rules and being too overladen with sports equipment to manage getting out the pouch and not missing the bus? Not something that requires a consequence. 
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Also, I’m replying to myself but - maybe you don’t understand the pouch? It’s that every kid locks up the phone, not just those who are pulling it out and get caught. So if the latter, the pouch is a consequence and not being able to unlock it is a natural consequence of the poor choice to pull it out in class. But if the kid never made that poor choice - [b]the not unlocking it is not a consequence for anything[/b]. It’s just stupid.

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No, it's a consequence for forgetting to unlock it or for choosing not to for whatever reason.
I think you should look up the definition of "consequence."[/quote]

Thankfully, I see I’m not alone - but I will respond to this stupidity -

A kid LOCKS the pouch because they are following the rules. Kids who don’t follow the rules (using dead-phones, etc) are not following the rules. Those kids - the ones who are rule breakers - are not subject to your “consequences”. So to have a kid deal with the consequences for locking it up, you’re actually punishing the ones who make good choices following the rules.

Moving on. I took stock of my kid’s two arms today: full backpack because the kid works hard and has all honors classes and homework. A project, because the kid works hard and had to work all weekend. A bag for sports practice, because the kid works hard at school so we picked the earliest practice we could find (so it doesn’t interfere with homework). An instrument, because it doesn’t fit in the bags and the kid is diligent about practice.

The kid only has two hands. Pulling out the pouch, to unlock it, to put it back, to gather everything. If they miss the bus or fail to unlock the pouch with their full hands - I see literally nothing there for which my child should pay a consequence.

And you can move to avoid taxes you don’t like. There are lots of places without sales tax or income tax. [/quote]

PP, you seem to have very low expectations for your kid. Good lord.[/quote]

Yep, I really expected this kid to have at least 4 hands if not more - where did I go wrong? 🙄[/quote]

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