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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most of the OOB is coming from JR feeder. Some from Oyster-Adams. [/quote] I don’t think so since the majority of OOB are black [/quote] Like there are no IB Black kids at JR. SMH.[/quote] Never said that and there might be a few but MacArthur is majority black and a title 1 school so majority of black kids are not IB for JR. Data is data and not anecdotal or just because you know a family here and there.[/quote] I’ve already asked this question earlier on this thread but no one answered - can you please advise what official resource I can see this information at about MacArthur, e.g the title 1 status and demographics?[/quote] NP. I think the "all black kids are OOB" claim for either school is ridiculous and I know of no data that OSSE/DCPS publishes that you could even infer that from. But with respect to the data we do have: The just released SY23-24 enrollment audit (here: https://osse.dc.gov/node/1720871) JR: 556 black students (28%) and 557 at-risk students (28%) MacArthur: 135 black students (57%) and 98 at-risk students (41%) I don't know a ton about Title 1 eligibility but that at-risk percentage is in line with other schools with Title 1 status. The only data we have on IB participation rates is from this document (here: https://dme.dc.gov/page/sy2021-22-public-school-enrollments-dcps-boundary) from SY21-22, which is obviously missing MacArthur and definitely does not break down by race or at-risk status. But: Deal: 78% of students IB (306 students OOB) Hardy: 62% of students IB (294 students OOB) Wilson: 64% of students IB (738 students OOB)[/quote] So data confirms that MacArthur is majority black and title 1 with that many at risk kids. It’s almost 1/2 at risk. [b]Sure there is no IB data yet but it’s pretty obvious that majority OOB are black and at risk since race correlates closely with SES in this town. [/b] There is no way that MacArthur is going to be any kind of top performing school with such a large percentage of at risk kids who likely have siblings that will be pulled into the school. No way unless the school uses a large portion of its resources to support these kids.[/quote] I'm sorry, are you the same poster who said "data is data"? This is not data. Race isn't such a surefire proxy for SES. For example, Shepherd Elementary, a Deal feeder, is 47% black, 7% at risk, and 64% IB.[/quote] Shepherd is the outlier in that the UMC black families congregate there but in the rest of the city, race does correlate with SES. The only other small area of town that might be an outlier is Hillcrest. But above are 2 small sections of the city. Everywhere else everyone knows race correlates with SES.[/quote] Absolutely not. I live in the middle of the city (ward 2 school and ward 5 house) and I have many UMC black friends. Ivy grads, professors, etc. Mostly new residents, not generational DC people, who want a good enough school but don't want to send their kids to an overwhelming white school (to avoid racism). Make more black friends. [b]Race DOES NOT correlate with SES[/b] [/quote] Wow. That's a strikingly poor understanding of what correlation is. It's a mathematical/statistical term that measures how closely two things track each other. In DC, white and high SES are highly correlated. That the correlation is different between black and high SES is statement of a statistical property of the data rather than any sort of judgmental statement towards high SES black families or your friends. It's really unrelated to high SES black families at all and rather a reflection of the relative absence of low SES white families and how that translates to average measures of the different demographic populations. [/quote] Would love to see this data you keep referring to while citing your anecdotal experience. My guess is data would show that both white/high SES and black/low SES are correlated but that white/high SES is much more highly correlated than black/low SES is. The degree of correlation differs, probably even more significantly so when you're talking about families opting into schools with desirable characteristics.[/quote] NP. I don’t get why a few people are trying to dispute this. In this town, of course white is correlated with high SES and black is correlated with low SES. Just because your black family is the exception or you know a black family that is doesn’t mean it disputes the data. I would argue the degree of correlation is greater in black and low SES. There are no poor whites in this town. All the low, poor SES families are black. [/quote] We’re disputing it because you’re acting like there are no black UMC or MC people in DC which is totally ignorant. [/quote] Girl stop begging for white people on DCUM to see you. Go join J&J or District Motherhued and stop worrying about the ignorance of randoms. [/quote]
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