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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Elite colleges should admit based on academic merit, exactly the same as in the rest of the world.

No more sports or legacy or skin color bs.[/quote]

The athletes and legacies have the merit (for the most part). All these students have the merit, but most of the ones getting have something else too -- awards, unique talent/EC, athletic skill, connections or legacy. The last 2 are the ones that seem a shame, but those people probably pay for my kid's financial aid....[/quote]
It's likely that some rich old dude, whose kids graduated decades ago, with millions to spare is paying your kids financial aid, not the legacy who are just paying 90k for the year. One of the worst hype complexes we give legacy students is that their meager 90k and occasional 50k gift to the university is subsidizing financial aid. Most legacies contribute very little overall to the college.[/quote]

Call me a pragmatist but if someone donates a billion to a school which allows a significant number of highly qualified but financially strapped kids to attend, then I won't really complain about their kid having a better shot at it than my kid. I certainly cannot afford to pay for any kids to attend college other than my own.

Also legacy kids at top colleges tend to also have higher GPAs and test scores so even if they get in at a higher rate it is not necessarily due to bias. My alma mater, which is a T10, has gotten rid of legacy preference, but I'm still willing to bet that legacy kids are admitted at a higher rate than non-legacy. I have no idea if my kid could get in now vs 20 years ago, but if she doesn't get in I'm also willing to bet that she does not need a degree from an elite school to be successful. 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/study-harvard-finds-43-percent-white-students-are-legacy-athletes-n1060361
"The study also found that roughly 75 percent of the white students admitted from those four categories, labeled 'ALDCs' in the study, “would have been rejected if they had been treated as white non-ALDCs,” the study said."

You lost your bet.

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What?  75% of one group of students Would have been rejected at a college with a 95% rejection Rate If they didn’t have the thing that set them apart from the other students?  Unpossible![/quote]

I'm not sure if it's your reading skill or reasoning skill. 
Maybe both.[/quote]

Ha, no, sorry buddy… your post exact stated that 75% of the students would have been rejected without the hook, and the rejection rate at Harvard is 95%…

So the genius conclusion is the majority of hooked kids would have been rejected if they weren’t hooked.  Exactly the same as the other non-hooked kids.

That’s some genius insight right there! lol.  And you know that, which is why you responded with ad hominem instead of substance.[/quote]

Since you seem really dumb, 
the conclusion is the majority of the ALDC kids would have bern replaced by regular more qualified kids if they were ALDC blind.[/quote]

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