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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Again, it is the women fighting amongst themselves about the better "choice" instead of coming together and advocating for more options, better flexibility, better leave; Currently, what "choice" one makes is an individual trying to the best in their circumstances, instead of insulting each other, wont it be better to band together and demand changes in this man-centric work environment? [/quote]

Except better flexibility and leave often means all women must work. Go spend some time in a Scandinavian country. Women are essentially the same as men. To truly have the option to not work it means men must have it too. [/quote]

The reason Scandinavian countries have nice things (such as one year + combined maternity/paternity leave) is not because “women are essentially the same as men” - it’s because they’re all mature adults who are willing to pay lots of money in taxes in order to fund those types of programs.  We will never have that here in America, regardless of how many women are in the workforce or how many men stay at home, because we are (for the most part) a nation of fundamentally selfish people who can’t think even a year into the future, let alone decades.[/quote]

It's cultural too though. You have high taxes in Italy, for example, but still, a lot of women don't work. It's quite a patriarchal society.

In Sweden, 80% of women from ages 20-84 work, compared to 53% in Italy...

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/EDN-20200306-1
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Sure, but the funny thing about bringing that up on this thread is that the OP *wants* to go back to work, and of course this has brought out some working women explaining why they’d be reluctant to hire a woman who has ever been a SAHM.  (The question of whether OP’s initial phrasing was offensive/silly/misunderstood aside, of course.)

It’s not about working or not working here, as far as I can tell.  It seems to be about working or not working according to someone else’s approved timeline.

(e.g. let’s say we both plan to have 40 years in the working world.  You finish grad school, start working at 24, work straight through until retirement at 64.  I finish undergrad, start working at 22, stay home with kids from 32-42, then want to go back to work and retire at 72.  Why is this SUCH a problem for so many people?  Why does it have to be all or nothing?)[/quote]

I mean, I have no judgement whatsoever. Everyone should do what they want. But pretending like taking 10 years out of the workforce is nothing is just silly. If you’re happy to go back to an entry level job great! If you’re happy to go back to a job based on relationships and connections and admit you lost a ton of knowledge and practice and build yourself back up great!

Otherwise I’d focus on explaining how you are ready to do the job you are interviewing on day 1. I have read a lot of resumes and we would generally not hire someone who has a gap of 10 years for any job I’m hiring for because we could easily hire someone without the same gap and who could talk about how what they are currently doing translates into the new job and how they will be ready to go. So forget about explaining why you were out and think about how you are ready to do this job now. [/quote]

Can you honestly explain why 10 years away from a job means that one has lost all of the knowledge and skills acquired during their 10 previous years in that job?  Sure, they’re not going to be as quick off the starting block as someone with zero gap, but entry level?  Really?

If the underlying knowledge and skills are there, it will take some refreshing, that’s true, but that’s not the same learning curve as literally starting from scratch.

No one is pretending taking 10 years out of the workforce is nothing.  It’s actually the opposite - you and those who are similarly biased are pretending that taking 10 years out of the workforce is *everything*.[/quote]

Women always shit on each other. Some of my the best hiring managers who hired me were men with kids. [/quote]

You’re right, and I honestly don’t understand this mentality.  To be fair, I’m not in the camp that believes that women have an obligation to support each other and build each other up no matter what, but some of the posters in this thread seem to have gone to the other extreme and are actively trying to hold some women back.

Thus far not a single poster has been able to provide any concrete examples of how some years out of the workforce causes brain rot to the point that the former SAHM can never recover.  Or how technology has changed to such an extent that a relatively young adult with a functioning brain wouldn’t be able to catch up in a timely manner.

To me it seems that some women for whatever reason are deeply offended that a woman may have taken some time away from her paid employment to focus on her family, and they are reaching for excuses to justify their desire to punish such women and put them in their place.[/quote]

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