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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The issue with liberal politicians and press/media mocking the lab theories and dismissing them as conspiracies is that it erodes public trust in both politicians and the media. Who can you believe when you are being mocked for something that turned out to be correct? It might not be a big deal per se whether it came from a lab or not, but the consequences of these small lies are long-lasting and great.[/quote]

The problem is we were/are drowning in misinformation and disinformation. There is no standard on how to deal with it. The media (right and left) just feed stories to anger their audience because it gets the viewers.[/quote]

And the answer to that problem is not to shut down conversation. It's to educate people to be skeptical and think critically. [/quote]

Science is supposed to be open minded and responsive to the evidence.  The vicious shutting down of a lab leak debate in the early days of the pandemic is the opposite of what science is supposed to look like, and it created discord between the public and scientists right when the pandemic began.  That suspicion of the public got worse and worse as time went on, but this is where it started.  People aren’t idiots.  They look at where the pandemic broke out, the crackdown on information from China at the time, and know a lab leak is a possibility.[/quote]

THANK YOU.

Wow, this conversation is distressing. I’m in NYC (ask Jeff), posted up thread about losing a grandparent to COVID in the window before vaccine distribution and blame Trump’s administration squarely for the disaster across different dimensions. I’ve voted blue and worked for candidates my entire life. WHY can’t we discuss with some measure of integrity the point of the article and the inadvertent fallout of suppressing this specific conversation?[/quote]

Sure babe.
This is the time for that conversation. But posters here and elsewhere want a bunch of attaboys for an unsupported 50- 50 guess 4 years ago, for a conversation that wasn’t helpful or constructive in the moment, and was literally hurting people. 
It doesn’t make you scientifically open minded for guessing the lab was possibly responsible for the origins of the pandemic. It’s just making a somewhat educated worthless guess. 
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