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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]That description of eating clubs wasn’t accurate even decades ago. Only a few of them are selective.[/quote]

Selective “bicker clubs”:Tiger Inn, Ivy, Cap, Tower, Cannon, Cottage. That’s six.

There are eleven eating clubs total. The majority are selective.
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f you have an issue with the eating clubs at Princeton, I assume you also have an issue with the secret societies, final clubs, and fraternities and sororities at other Ivies and universities.
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Absolutely do. But the difference is these other schools don’t have a 70% participation rate in their flavor of frat/sorority. Princeton is dominated by it. [/quote]

So, does that mean if 100% of Princeton wanted to join an Eating Club, then they could at least be part of the other five that are not selective?

I am not aware of another school that even has remotely the capacity for 70% of the school to join a Sorority/Fraternity.  I am also not aware of any school that has open fraternity/sororities with their own house that throw parties, offer meals, etc.

At most schools...maybe 30-40% has any opportunity to join a fraternity / sorority.  The fact that Princeton has capacity for 70% is actually fairly astounding.[/quote]

Yes.  The only constraint is that a contract with an eating club costs more than a university dining plan, but the clubs will subsidize membership for students who otherwise might have difficulty paying the fee.

The clubs are for juniors and seniors so at any one time less than 70% of all students belong to an eating club. At various times a majority or half the clubs were open-admission; at present 5/11 are.  At the same time, Princeton has built and opened more residential colleges, so there are more options for those students not interested in an eating club, whether it’s a selective or open-admissions club.

Any student considering Princeton should ask themselves whether they want to attend a university where a significant number of students are comfortable self-segregating as juniors and seniors by belonging to clubs that turn away many students who would like to join those clubs.  For me, it was the biggest hurdle I considered before deciding to go there rather than Williams, which I really loved, or Duke, which a family member had attended. Ultimately, I concluded that the opportunities at Princeton were too great to pass up. [/quote]

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