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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Eat healthy. Exercise. Done. [/quote] Yup. This trend of salivating for drugs instead of just doing what you’re supposed to be doing is bonkers.[/quote] NP. Americans are lazy. They consume high amount of carbs, sugar and calories. They have high cholesterol, pre diabetes or diabetes, but at the same time want to stay thin. Lol [/quote] That "lol" at the end really conveyed your point :roll: :roll: Presumably you are thin, healthy and smart, so why are you on this thread? Oh I know, because you're just nasty and jealous.[/quote] Jealous of what? OP coveting a drug to change their biochemistry to promote weight loss instead of acting like a normal human was designed, which avoids the weight gain in the first place? Or jealous of the other people in this thread that think innovation should be free. I’m sure all those posters also work for free. [/quote] Again, why are you here? Just to gloat about how perfect you are. We get it. You are sooooooooo much better than us fatties looking for a drug to fix us. Does that make you feel better? [/quote] Its a discussion forum. You know, for discussion. The suggestion anyone is jealous of any of this is constant, yet exceptionally dumb. Similarly, the entire post's concept reeks of entitlement. Why exactly would a novel pharaceutical that is being now being used beyond its original indication to treat a self-inflicted disease be ready available "for the rest of us" at effectively no cost? How does that make any amount of sense? Do you work for free? The answer is you don't. And, that attitude of entitlement probably landed you in whatever predicament you are in with regard to your weight and lack of self control anyways.[/quote] Presumably, people discuss things that affect them or they have experience in. By your own admission this has ZERO bearing on your life, so why are you here if not to shit on people doing their best to lose the weight? Because you are a shit person, an anonymous keyboard warrior sticking it to us fatties on the internet trying to make yourself feel better. Everything else you said is pure shit and you should read on about these drugs if you wish to "discuss." [/quote] I am not the PP with whom you are responding, but I do agree this is a discussion board, and comments like “people doing their best to lose the weight” via a drug is not doing your best. It’s the easy way out. Taking care of your body is a commitment and doesn’t just magically happen with a miracle drug. [/quote] You also do not know what you are talking about. Please educate yourself before “discussing” these drugs. And I ask you the same, why are you here if not to shit on people? Because you’re certainly not contributing anything of substance. [/quote] NP. Jeez do you lash out in real life whenever someone disagrees with you? This is dcum, a place where people can post however they please. I'm willing to bet that you've posted quite a bit on threads that had nothing to do with you. You don't like his/her commentary but they're being honest and adding some value to this discussion imo.[/quote] DP. I'm curious - for anyone who has either never been overweight or obese or never taken these drugs, how do you know how hard or easy it is to lose weight - with or without the drugs? And if you don't know, why is it so important to judge? For those who are so deeply committed to health, it's perplexing why there is so much resistance to medication that is actually helping people make healthier choices, exercise more, and reduce health risks associated with obesity. Isn't that the goal? It sounds like many people prefer that "fatties" suffer and fail because they don't deserve an approved medication to promote a healthier lifestyle. [/quote] PP quoted in this gigantic string in here somewhere. Yes, was obese and turned myself around. Extremely unhealthy. No, did not use drugs. Unless you qualify water and exercise and actually eating real food in normal quantities a drug. Yes, [b]I do have a problem with paying for expensive pharmaceutical intervention via insurance or any other subsidy, many times being used outside of their indications, where people won’t do the work to change their life. T[/b]otally fine if they want to pay out of pocket cash. I also think the arguments about “well it’s better than X” are weak. like negotiating with a terrorist and them saying they will only blow up and small building instead of a big one. How about fix the behavior and environment that landed you in the spot you are in? It isn’t impossible. Hard, yes. Impossible, no. And the OP is really rich. Near normal BMI and wondering when these will be more widely available? JFC[/quote] So would you favor coverage for people who are doing the work and using the drug as part of changing their lives? Or is your believe that just because you did it, it should also be as hard as possible for everyone else, with most people failing? Also, I'm curious - how old were you when you made this about face and lost all the weight? Male or female? [/quote]
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