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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We didn’t have this obesity problem 30 years ago. Cook your food. Stop buying processed food. Stop wanting to use medication as a crutch. Pay $1K/month to get it. You want insurance to pay, right. That’s what you really meant. Stop stuffing your face. Really exercise. Really. [/quote] another super ignorant and uneducated post. Food and lifestyles have changed dramatically over the past 30 years. Yes, of course I want insurance to pay. Why would I not? By your logic insurance should not pay for any medications. They are just crutches and quick fixes after all.[/quote] You just said the same thing and then I added the excuse in the end. Tomatoes haven’t changed in 30 years. Maybe buy some of those instead of stuff that has 10,000 ingredients.[/quote] When did we start genetically modifying our veggies and fruits?[/quote] If you’re talking about the current working definition of GMO, genetically engineered tomatoes were first sold in 1994, though it isn’t correct to say that tomatoes haven’t changed since then. Regardless of whether tomatoes have changed or not, the argument that Americans should just stop buying heavily processed foods and buy more fruits and vegetables in order to address obesity is akin to telling people to just walk everywhere to stay in shape. It’s a facile argument and unrealistic in our society. There are food deserts and affordability to consider, plus cultural differences and genetics. But it is primarily meant as an insult in any case. Many people can and have changed their eating habits for the better permanently, but on a societal scale the US has a significant and costly obesity problem. It won’t be fixed by telling people to buy tomatoes. If lots of people lose weight and improve their health outcomes via meds, that is fantastic for all of us. And since these meds reduce cravings and mindless snacking, they make it easier to “just eat a tomato.” Win win.[/quote] Effectively zero people that participate in this forum live in a food desert. Exactly zero of the people asking when these branded drugs will be available for the purpose OP is asking live in a food desert. It’s insulting to appropriate that harsh reality. People asking for these novel drugs for garden variety obesity just don’t want to change and do the work. Expecting 40% of the US population to solve a mostly self inflected problem through novel pharmaceutical intervention is incredibly dumb. [/quote] The post you quote is perfectly clear that it is referencing American society in general. Your appropriation comment is laughable. Fortunately these novel drugs won’t be novel for long; this has been widely covered in the media. Several obesity drugs are in the pipeline in addition to those already available. In less than 10 years patents will start expiring and generics will flood the market. Regardless of your opinion of people who use or will use these drugs, they are extremely clinically valuable and have improved and will continue to improve the quality of life for millions of Americans. [/quote] You do realize drug patents last 20 years, right? That said, I do hope competition drives down prices and gives insurance companies the ability to negotiate. [/quote]
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