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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised? Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose[/quote] I think about this all the time. I think if you have a good marriage and husband, assuming that one job is enough to live a nice life, the 50s way seems easier. But that's a lot of ifs. [/quote] [b]Just remember many if not most mommies were bored to tears and drugged with valium a/k/a "Mama's little helper." [/b]Be a little careful romanticizing it. That said, it's true that a widespread two-parent workforce did help catalyze the affordability crisis with housing, I think. [/quote] DP but what on Earth is your source for this?[/quote] https://www.historyhit.com/mothers-little-helper-the-history-of-valium/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24007886/ You could easily do some research if you are interested. It's widely researched. [/quote] [i]Just remember many if not most mommies were bored to tears and drugged with valium a/k/a "Mama's little helper." [/i] Neither of the links you copied provide any data as to the actual prevalence of “mommies” using Valium, let alone support your assertion that any mommy who DID take it was doing do because she was “bored to tears”. The history of the marketing campaign is just that - the history of the marketing campaign. The intended purpose of Valium was to treat insomnia and anxiety, and it’s not as though those two conditions were “cured” by more women entering the workplace. And in fact we still treat these conditions with drugs, pills, and alcohol. We would all do well to stop the ridiculous belief that pop culture is real life. In this case the two extremes would be the “Leave it to Beaver” perfect happy home snd family on one end and the Betty Draper unfulfilled and bored and unhappy valium-popping housewives on the other.[/quote] So you refused to do your own research and nitpicked 2 of the million articles about this, I was just giving you beginners introduction you didn’t seem able to even understand the concept.[/quote] You made the assertion, you failed to back up the assertion with any factual information, and somehow I am the one who won’t do research and can’t understand the concept? Really? How old are you?[/quote] I neither made the assertion nor “tried to back it up” you seemed to have no knowledge of the history of Valium use in the us and I gave you 2 articles to educate you.[/quote] I honestly can’t follow what argument you think you’re having here. Do you know what an assertion is? Maybe that is the disconnect. I did actually read the articles you linked (clearly you did not) and they didn’t back up the [b]assertion [/b]that you made that “many if not most mommies” were using valium because they were “bored to tears”. NB the “” indicate where I’m [b]quoting [/b]you. I’m starting to wonder what drugs YOU are on.[/quote] See your confused because your always looking for a fight, and you end up chasing your tail when nobody is trying to fight you. Someone mentioned the use of Valium in the United States. You acted like that was a folk tale. I provided a history of use and a study on its use, No fight, no “assertion “, just information to educate you. You’re confused because with you everything is a fight and I’m not fighting over anything, just eduction in an area your ignorant.[/quote] Thanks, I see the problem now. It’s clear that you do NOT know what an assertion is (even though I have told you the specific assertion I was questioning multiple times). You also appear to be under the impression that if I question whether many/most mothers were indeed on valium due to their existential boredom, that is equivalent to me questioning whether ANY mothers were on valium. (It is not, and I do not.). You, like SO MANY posters on this site, seemingly have no idea that “some”, “many”, and “most” do not mean the same thing. Since it is clear that you are unable to comprehend the conversation, I will not be “fighting” with you anymore on this topic. [/quote] Your poor H. Everything with you is a fight. A point and counterpoint. You can’t just discuss. Advertisements for Valium and other benzodiazepines in the ’60s and ’70s were, by today’s standards, shockingly brazen in their depiction of stereotypical women who might be saved from their disappointing lives by popping pills. Valium was touted as a drug that would sweep away your depression and anxiety, allowing you to be your ‘true self’. From 1969 to 1982, Valium was the most prescribed drug in the country, with Americans ingesting 2.3 billion of the little pills annually. Women were its biggest fans, popping them like candy to take the edge off a stressful day [/quote]
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