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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]it was already going that way. the ACA simply provided a safety net particularly for people with pre-existing conditions who were rejected or exempted coverage in the prior version of health insurance

what we need is single payer/universal- our healthcare system has been horrible since the deregulation of the Reagan era[/quote]

+1.   The ACA is significant but it is not enough.  Single payer already like every other modern developed nation.[/quote]

What is the downside to this, which should be a basic right? That poor people might get healthcare and not suffer because they are poor? Is that it? [/quote]

Take a look at tax rates in all these modern developed countries and ask if you are willing to pay that.[/quote]

And in return for those higher taxes:

Medical care is free. 
Education (including university and trade school) is free.  In fact students get stipends. 
6-8 weeks of vacation a year
People can support themselves on one job

There is less income inequality though, so fewer very rich people. 
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Yeah, and it's also why their economies are trash as well as their salaries and their GDPs are anemic while the US continues to outshine them all in terms of GDP and innovation.

Go lookup the median household incomes in the UK, France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc. where you all think they're a socialist wonderland.

They have absolutely trash wages.  And you wonder why France had their Yellow vest riots a little while back? It's because their salaries are absolute garbage and the govt reams them over the coals for 50% taxes.  It is crushing families and their abilities to live and raise kids even with all of the perceived benefits.  Go lookup the wages in the UK. Absolutely putrid.  That's why so many Brits come to the US to work, because they can make double to triple their salary that they get in the UK.

It's hilarious Americans who propose all of this socialist stuff think they'll still be getting the same level of income as they do now.  How about you cut your salary in half, then tell me you still like all of this free stuff.  Only then are you more comparable to all of the other countries you hold on such a high pedestal.[/quote]

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