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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]it was already going that way. the ACA simply provided a safety net particularly for people with pre-existing conditions who were rejected or exempted coverage in the prior version of health insurance

what we need is single payer/universal- our healthcare system has been horrible since the deregulation of the Reagan era[/quote]

+1.   The ACA is significant but it is not enough.  Single payer already like every other modern developed nation.[/quote]

What is the downside to this, which should be a basic right? That poor people might get healthcare and not suffer because they are poor? Is that it? [/quote]

Take a look at tax rates in all these modern developed countries and ask if you are willing to pay that.[/quote]

And in return for those higher taxes:

Medical care is free. 
Education (including university and trade school) is free.  In fact students get stipends. 
6-8 weeks of vacation a year
People can support themselves on one job

There is less income inequality though, so fewer very rich people. 
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DP.. the problem with trying to implement this is in the US is that it's too much too quickly. Americans aren't used to the very high tax rates today. They did pay them pre 1960s.  But, most people today would balk at such high tax rates. Europeans are used to high tax rates, so it doesn't bother them as much.

IMO, we should start raising taxes bit by bit, and at the same time, expand medicare bit by bit.  That is more palatable to most Americans than a quick "rip the band aid" off approach.[/quote]

Pp here.  I agree completely.  Even that would be a struggle though probably, American individualism makes it difficult to persuade people that we are only as strong as our weakest link.

For example, our military can’t recruit enough people - too fat and too unhealthy.  Not good for our national security.  But no one sees the value of paying for healthy lunches and diabetes and obesity prevention for all the kids in the US.  Not only would that help our military, but those kids would be able to learn better, do better in life, etc, etc.  All for slightly more in taxes and fewer subsidies to ag and fossil fuels industries. [/quote]

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