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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can accept every list being proposed on this thread with the exception of those that include Cornell [/quote] Cornell CS, Engineering, Business(Dyson) are very prestigious. Hotel Management NO[/quote] all very good programs, and Cornell is a great school - but agree not the tippy top kids. Think T15 in US News is cutoff in my circle for prestige [/quote] WashU and Rice are better than Cornell? [/quote] yes [/quote] We’re talking prestige here. Rice is hardly a household name. Same with Washington U. Sorry. [/quote] Agree that WashU is a little mystifying. But Rice is very prestigious. However those kids tend not to go into investment banking or consulting, which are the most prestige driven industries. But for engineering or medical school and most other fields, there really aren't many schools that are better. Bur Rice is pretty small. It's in Texas. And they're not well represented in finance, so it flies below the radar in the popular imagination. Also, agree with the poster that noted that most of the kids at the top 10 schools - with the exception of MIT - are legacies or rich or URMs or athletes. The real talent is going to t10-30 schools. And the public honors programs. Eventually, public perception will catch up. Harvard will always be Harvard. Stanford will always be Stanford. But I think eventually people will realize that the kids at Rice, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan are the genuine smart ones. If I were hiring, I'd be very suspect of a recent Harvard or Yale degree. They're useful because of connections, but I know I'm not getting the best and brightest. [/quote] No... just no. You think Notre Dame isn't full of legacies and donor admits? It's always been one of the least diverse top colleges. The smartest kids are still at Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, and Princeton. Sure there are some legacy and donor admits, but the regular kids who get in tend to be the best overall. After that, the next best kids tend to enroll at UPenn (especially Wharton), Duke, Yale, and Columbia (this might change with their scandal). Berkeley also sticks out as attracting some of the best talent in the country and also internationally. I will agree Rice gets incredibly strong students, but they're limited by enrolling ~40% of their class from Texas.[/quote]
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