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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^p. This is because you believe that somehow morality is wrapped up in being thin and fat. But in order to believe that, you have to believe that all fat people are lazy sloths and all thin people are rugged and hearty.

And that's not true[/quote]

What on earth are you talking about? You're totally projecting your own issues here. [/quote]

I don't have any issues. I am responding to this idea: 
"Go do your own journey and enjoy it, but don't pretend like the 2 are comparable. Losing weight (and maintaining) on your own is incredibly hard, and of course it's different and more valuable in some ways."

If the goal is weight loss for health, it shouldn't matter if you diet or take the drugs. But people who wrap up self-worth and morality in "working hard" will have a hard time seeing the goal as what matters.

This thread is full of people here who belidve they are better because they never got fat or lost weight "naturally." Aside from the oddball Big Pharma poster, how else do you explain their attitude other than seeing being fat and thin as a morality/personality issue?

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You're the one focusing on thin-ness, not me. And health is more than just physical health - hence the subject of this thread (dealing with mental health issues associated with weight and subsequently weight loss, and working on sorting that stuff out).

Why are you putting "naturally" in quotes? Do you think exercise and watching what you eat isn't natural? Do you think pills and surgery are natural? Do what you want to achieve your goals, but it's naive to assume that someone who take steriods to look fit is equal to someone who shows up at the gym and puts in the work every day. They're not the same. I'm sorry that you're envious of people who are able to find the mental will to lose weight through hard work. No one's saying you're a failure for taking a pill or surgery, but yes of course it's easier. Obviously. Isn't that why people take it in the first place? Because they couldn't lose weight the old fashioned way? If losing weight through diet and exercise were easier, then why aren't they doing it?

Because it's hard AF that's why,.

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Not “easier,” [i]possible[/i].

And once again you are assuming that anyone who is obese is mentally ill. Then you go on to assume that anyone who loses weight with drugs or surgery or whatever hasn’t put in the work of eating better, exercising and dealing with emotional issues. That’s completely arrogant. [/quote]

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