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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I went to high school with a girl who's parent had killed themselves and what I learned from three years of being around her is that parents should not kill themselves. It messed her up in so many ways.

Hopefully Leta can take the summer to process and get back to school in the fall. I hope both girls have some sort of peace about this at some point soon. Yes, I'm assuming Heather killed herself. [/quote]

You’re an ignoramus.  You might as well take tears to lean that people shouldn’t get cancer either.

She didn’t choose to have the disease she fought mightily for 15 years.  She tried literally every antidepressant.  She tried experimental treatments.  She fought to live with every fiber of her being.

She stayed as long as she could.[/quote]

To kill your self when you have children is the ultimate act of cowardice. You’re leaving them with a lifetime of issues to unpack plus all the issues you already gave them by being such a bad person and parent! Yes I said it! Quit ennobling suicides and suicidal ideation with “she stayed as long as she could” and shit. She’s not a victim! She failed her kids. So did Amalah for that matter being found with her wrists sliced open and OD on stuff. These are awful narcissists! Life IS full of choices, you get busy livin or get busy dying!! [/quote]

NP.  I agree with this.  I had an uncle who killed himself and his family was devastated from it and never recovered.  It's really a terrible thing to do.  People who are depressed have disordered thinking - that's why they need to make a promise that they will never kill themself and stick to it.  Always.  [/quote]

Astonishing that you could have lost someone close to you to depression by suicide but you still have NO effing clue.

Depression is a terrible thing.  Suicidal symptoms are terrible.  A brain that doesn’t work is terrible.

You acknowledge that depression is disordered thinking but you think a verbal promise is going to stop a person whose brain literally can’t work?  If a desire to live and live for others could stop suicides, nearly no one would die from suicide except those to willfully die by their own hands to avoid consequences for crimes and such.  The vast majority of suicidal people want to live…they want to live.  But they are literally in unbearable pain.  They cannot see beyond it.

This is not a woman who didn’t care about her family and didn’t try to live.  She spent years and years and years in treatment.  She tried every possible antidepressant.  She tried experimental treatments.  We are still very much in the dark ages with mental illness…there is no guaranteed result even if you seek every possible available treatment.

Just like people with cancer who fight to live but sometimes can’t be cured, so it is true for some people with depression or bipolar illness.  They are sometimes lethal illnesses.  It is not from a deficiency of wanting to be healthy or wanting to live.

You ascribe moral failure to a medical symptom.  It is judgment like that that makes people with suicidal symptoms even less likely to feel safe telling others what they are fighting.  Do better, in memory of your poor uncle.[/quote]

DP. You are tiresome.

My summary is better than yours.[/quote]

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