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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As the PP mentioned, students with special needs are indeed becoming a focus at BASIS because the school has recognized that it is this group of students which has the highest attrition (as opposed to a group based on race or low SES as people on DCUM seem to assume)[/quote]

No, attrition of students with special needs is exactly what people assume is going on. Attrition on purpose.[/quote]

Or attrition by choice. IDEA does not guarantee As in an accelerated curriculum. If a child’s SN makes it very hard for them to be successful in a rigorous environment then it’s normal that they would switch schools. Plenty of NT kids dislike the demands as well. Basis has to support the kids it has and implement the IEP, [b]but does not have to water down the curriculm.[/b] [/quote]

This is the money phrase. It is in the end what the argument is about. People who complain about high standards don't understand the difference between affording more time, and deciding that the material is too hard. Not the same thing. 
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No. It's because more time (which is a nice way of saying retention and forcing them into a classroom of younger kids even if not developmentally appropriate) doesn't necessarily solve anything, and it dramatically increases the long-term chances of the kid dropping out. The answer is more services, not more time.[/quote]

You misunderstood. My reference to "more time" was to untimed testing vs watering down the material covered on the test. The former is a reasonable accommodation. The latter is how DCUM and lots of SJW misinterpret IDEA and other requirements.

You also keep using "developmentally appropriate" as if that's meaningful to anyone but you and your hardened opinion. Why do you care so much about the developmental appropriateness of the kids held back and not about them in classes 2-4 grades above their skills? I find that strange. [/quote]

Because we're talking about an elementary school where the developmental and physical gaps can be really big. If a kid is held back more than once, that's a lot. If it were your kid, would you think this is a good plan? Or would you think the school is unwilling to meet their needs in a manner you consider appropriate? It's fine to say "BASIS isn't to everyone's taste" but to offer parents a choice of leaving or accepting an inappropriate class year placement is effectively pushing them out [/quote]

I'll play. If my kid was to be held back 2x before 4th grade I would realize that the traditional school my kid was in was not going to prepare them to ever be independent or functioning members of society. I would want my kid in a school dedicated to getting them back on track.  [/quote]

But BASIS has an obligation to serve the needs of it's students in good faith. Public charters are not allowed to counsel out.[/quote]

Regardless of whether this is legally true, it’s what the PCSB believes. [b]They want to prove that charter schools can replace traditional public schools.[/b] Basis supporters love to hate DCPS, but Basis needs DCPS to take the students that Basis can’t or won’t educate. [/quote]

Nope. But nice to know WTU has entered the chat![/quote]

What would BASIS be like if all schools had to take a proportionate share of students who move into DC from out of state? What would BASIS be like if all schools had to educate a proportionate share of students with high-level IEPs? Methinks BASIS' wonderful "success" wouldn't shine so bright.[/quote]

What would DCPS be like if it offered magnet and gifted programs in MS and accelerated academic tracks, and had entrance exams and failed kids who couldn’t meet the standards? Then DCPS parents would not be flocking to Basis. [/quote]

so what?

BASIS' "model" is premised on doing the easy parts, and avoiding the hard parts. As if my "model" at work was that I only do the tasks that are easy for me and blow off the rest, and I can only be rated on the easy tasks. If BASIS wasn't allowed to avoid the harder work, it wouldn't be as appealing to parents or look as successful. It's all premised on avoiding a fair share of the hardest parts of education.[/quote]

You sound like an elementary school parent. When kids get into MS and beyond, it is acceptable and appropriate for them to be sorted into groups by academic ability. This is normal and good. Arguing that we have to get rid of acceleration programs because all schools (and classes) have to “do the hard part” is crazy and destructive. What really seems to irk you is that Basis can filter for students who can be accelerated because you apparently think it is unfair that DCPS has to take all comers. But the sensible response to that is not “destroy acceleration at charters because DCPD cannot do that.” The sensible response is “provide more acceleration at DCPS.”

Really though you just hate charters. [/quote]

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