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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]College is becoming a modern-day vocational school. [/quote] It can't continue to remain like a country club after charging $200K $300K [/quote] Well I wouldn't recommend someone get an English Lit major and pay $300k+ unless the money is easy to pay. There are more affordable ways to get a degree. But if you like English, major in it, develop critical thinking/analyzing and writing skills. And genuinely learn A smart person can go far with an English degree[/quote] I think the real issue is that college didn't used to be for everyone. This college for all model is failing our society. Not everyone is suited to and has the goal of being on law review at duke. A higher education isn't a requirement to building a good life and academia being overrun with people who think in terms of education being a "return on investment" is ruinng both the higher education world and not serving those cost conscious worker bee types well. Al of teh women in my family had higher education degrees and practically 90% of them never held any sort of paid position- they deserved to be there just as much as anyone else bc they loved getting an education and scholarship for its own sake, not necessarily as a meal ticket since hey were independently wealthy. If you need a return on investment the state universities and community college and vocational schools are where you belong, and some places of higher learning can pivot to serving those communities but higher education was founded way back in order to serve a population that wanted to increase human knowledge and be preoccupied with scholarly pursuits. People who just want to learn how to code or whatever dont actually belong there. Industry has changed and many jobs require one to sit at a desk but the people who occupy themselves with such tasks aren't scholars or "gentlemen" and honesly- the flattening of the class divide that happened during the 20th century is an aberration, we have reverted to the mean of a highly unequal society and some people have the money to sit around studying crystals and some ppl will use the knowledge in industry- there has to be roofer both. I mean look at bill gates- he wasn't a great scholar, he's a businessman and so he left academia to pursue that, its preposterous to claim that he should have twiddled his thumbs at university getting a degree he neither wanted nor needed. people should get the sort of training they need in order to live the sort of life that they want to build and its silly for people who are primarily concerned wit learning CS to land a job at amazon to be gunning for pincer- they should be gunning for Carnegie-mellon. people should know wether they are aspiring to be the F Scott Fitzgeralds of the world or the Thomas Edisons and choose accordingly [/quote] This. College isn't for everyone. The traditional notion of college as a place to hone critical thinking skills and expand on scholarly research has been conflated with vocational schooling.[/quote]
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