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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was an English major. Now I’m a lawyer and I write a lot. I don’t think my major was useless but I guess wtf do I know?[/quote] +1. Political science and philosophy double major. I am a practicing attorney. My undergrad degrees, more so than my law school experience, shaped me into the lawyer and human being I am today. [/quote] My DD wants to be an English major. She's also a singer. So Voice and English. You English majors are fantatically interesting people who can communicate well. Half the people I work with cannot communicate clearly..writing, speaking. And they are college graduates. Also, my DD has friends [b]going off to these fancy schools for engineering and computer science.[/b] When she works with them on group projects, they can't spell or write good sentences. Hooray for English and other liberal arts majors!! [/quote] Those are actually the most well rounded of our employees, and fine writers, but perhaps it depends where you work. I am sorry for your contempt. [/quote] I agree---my Engineering major kid has to take a freshman writing course along with 2 engineering writing courses to graduate, along with 2 project courses. Add in the outside of class research they are doing and they have the opportunity to develop their writing/communication skills. [b]Gone are the days when engineers do not take writing courses. [/b] [/quote] When was that? I graduated with an engineering degree in 1989, and had to take tons of writing (and other core humanities) classes.[/quote] Attended a T10 university around same time and got an engineering degree and an art degree. For engineering I took the basic English writing course taught by 1st year grad students---it was required to be P/F. I used my APUSH for credits and took two Econ courses and a freshman Speech course (P/F required). That was it. [b] I knew how to write and learned it thru my research documentation. [/b]But my "freshman writing course" was a joke. I took it year 4 (of my 5) so the "teacher" was only 1 year older than me. Basically as long as you made some changes with each draft of your assignment you passed. I recall one essay, I got 2nd or 3rd draft back with tons of red ink/markups. The comments were making suggestions that had been in my draft 2 almost word for word, but I had changed because of the comments on draft 2. So I took both drafts into the Teacher/TA and ask them which they would like me to use, because I only made the changes based on their comments. They didn't know quite what to say----I had already learned how to write at college level, but would have enjoyed a course more targeted specifically for STEM/engineering writing, like my kid is getting. [/quote] Mmm, you say that with a lot of confidence. I might beg to differ. [/quote]
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