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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If Trump had been re-elected...

[twitter]https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1633604224843120640[/twitter][/quote]

Bad statement, that is true.

But lets not forget Biden's atrocious statements, "An incursion is not an invasion," and his offer to "give President Zelenskyy a ride" out of Ukraine / encouraging him to cowardly flee and abandon Ukraine.

NATO / the EU has fortunately made him heel to their plan, and begrudgingly comply with what needs to be done:  the defeat of Russia (and hopefully its collapse).   [/quote]

That Biden phrasing was because Russia already incursing due to Crimea and Donetsk.

Nobody brought Zelensky to heel.  It's more the other way round.  By staying and by Ukraine fighting back they proved their willingness and capacity to fight for their own country.  If they hadn't done that then they wouldn't have gotten support.[/quote]

Sorry; poor phrasing:  it was Biden who was brought to heel, and made to understand the Russian threat to all of Europe.

Russia has repeatedly said they will take back all of Ukraine, and they have no intention of stopping there.  Russia’s main threats involve re-invading the Baltics and Poland.[/quote]

LOL so people say the Russian army is poorly supplied, poorly commanded, obsolete and fighting with wooden sticks and basically a second away from collapsing.

AND

They are about to invade the Baltics and Poland, NATO MEMBERS, with this supposedly ragtag army.  Hmmmm..

One of these things doesn't fit.

Also, you should know that the French, the Spanish, the Italian, the German etc. do not at all feel threatened by this mythical Russian invasion.  "All of Europe", suuure.[/quote]

Ask Russia why they keep explicitly threatening Poland, the Baltics, etc.  I agree that it doesn't make any logical sense because they dont have either the capacity or capability to do so.  Nevertheless they keep making the threats.[/quote]

There are many layers of complexity, for example starting with the fact that Putin has for years surrounded himself with legions of yes-men who tell him whatever he wants to hear; there are his "friends" - the oligarchs who promised to "help" him but in turn just enriched themselves by stealing money intended for maintaining Russian military equipment, training personnel and other vital functions.  It is in fact both true that Putin earnestly believed that he could conquer Ukraine in 3 days yet not understand that this was in fact not true.[/quote]

There is an old Russian movie called the Twelve Chairs which takes place in the years after the revolution (the premise is someone held the family jewels in an upholstered chair that was part of a set of 12 and he is desperately hunting across the USSR to find the chair).  Anyway, there is a scene in which he finds a room labeled something like “The People’s orchestra of the victorious hero workers” —when he opens the door, it is one guy with a sad old tuba — because everything else has been stolen through grift.  All name, no instruments.   As it ever was in Russia.  
Oddly, Mel brooks made a remake of that same movie!  [/quote]

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