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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many of us have been going back to work since 2021 and enduring wearing masks for a period of time and getting Covid checks at work.  This is 2023. It’s time to get back to normalcy. Good luck, off, finding your next job. I hope they don’t give you a writing test.[/quote]

Normalcy is now WFH. My employer cut our office lease short and I now don’t even have an office to go into. Sorry you have to schlep into an office, but based on my peer group, that certainly isn’t the norm.

OP has valid complaints. Being forced to go into an office is like getting a pay cut. You’re putting in more hours per week (commuting) and losing money on gas. COVID sort of let the cat out of the bag so to speak as far as employees realizing it doesn’t have to be this way. Employers can try to squeeze that toothpaste back into the tube, but it’s too late. Unless you have a need to be in person for a particular task, it just feels punitive and micro-managing to force people to do their work in an arbitrary office location. [/quote]well, our employer put the toothpaste back in the tube.  And traffic in the last 18 months in DC metro has risen substantially as others got their toothpaste back in, too.  [/quote]

Cool. But you know that toothpaste didn’t go neatly back into the tube … congrats to the employers who now have a building full of disgruntled, disengaged employees (b/c you know a lot of them feel the same as OP even if not venting it online). And in a few years all they’ll be left with are the duds who couldn’t find a better remote job. The quality employees will take their skills to one of the many other companies offering mostly telework duties.

If you think that technology and workforce expectations haven’t changed the employment market, then you have your head in the sand. Maybe you’re too busy with your commute to keep up with current labor market trends. [/quote]

I actually think people who believe that FT WFH is the future have their heads in the sand.

It’s obviously moving to hybrid.[/quote]

Hybrid when there’s no need to be in person is not the trend. There’s zero reason for people to go into an office to login to Zoom calls just because it’s their scheduled “in office day.” People may not 100% WAH every day, but there should be specific reasons for going in such as in-person meetings, client meetups, large trainings, work travel, etc. And there are enough jobs out there that are fully remote (and employees looking for remote work) that’s absolutely going to affect the labor market. Just think, if 2 nearly identical jobs pay the same amount, but one requires 2 days per week in office and 1 allows mostly full time telework, most people will choose WAH over a strict hybrid schedule. If you want an employee to come in 2-3x/week then you’ll need to provide the salary that compensates that. At this point, I doubt I’d consider a hybrid job unless I doubled my salary (right now with setting my own hours and WAH I can meet the school bus every day, exercise or prep dinner during my lunch break, etc.) To give that up I’m now going to need to pay for aftercare, commuting costs, and will probably end up ordering take out more. Plus just the inconvenience of it all. And with WAH I can live anywhere so more housing options.

Offering remote work is a great hiring incentive and employers requiring a strict hybrid requirement will be at a hiring disadvantage.[/quote]

Yes but this is what I mean. This long response to a short post. If it weren’t trending back, this animosity wouldn’t be so predictable. The fewer full time at home exists, the fewer people would be leaving to take them. I think the big issue is that every argument skews to a personal benefit. You can’t sell something that won’t help the company. It needs to be mutually beneficial. There are enough people willing to go in 2 days a week to make this a poor argument. [/quote]

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