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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just talked to my 80yo father about this, I was saying how if school was like this when I was a kid, I didn't notice. He said by the time I would notice, I would have been grouped in with the elite kids. Which happened by 4th grade in the 1980s. I never had a class again with anyone not above-average IQ.

My Dad said that in his day (born 1943 in hillbilly country), there were 15-16 year olds in the 4th and 5th grades. The teachers would not advance them if they didn't prove what they needed to learn in order to advance! At 16 obviously they dropped out, or earlier if they became parents. Those were kids who were low IQ or learning disabled. But if a child had behavioral issues that were disruptive? In that case, they didn't go to school. They had a teacher visit them in their home. My grandmother, my father's mother, did this work. She did art classes at homes for the kids who could not attend school because of their disruptive and violent behaviors.

Not saying any of the above is right. I appreciated the history.

I am a bit shocked at what I have seen. Teachers (saints!) trying to deal with a 1st grade class that ranges from extreme special needs to high intellectual ability. At 1st grade, the IEPs haven't been started/processed etc. It's unbelievable they get anything done at all, but they do their best.

But overall I think it's better to include than exclude. Kids in the past were excluded wrongly -- this is the missing part of my Dad's all-white-person story: black kids were not even considered, not allowed to go to the same school in his town. And I bet my grandmother only visited white families for her art class visits. Toxic racism is behind much of where we were and where we are today.

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Teacher visiting disruptive kids at their home is really the best solution. Then parents can’t complain about abuse happening at a special facility, and also the kid is in a familiar environment every day without disruptions themselves.[/quote]

SPED teacher here-this would be a giant nope for me. Going to their house-just no[/quote]

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