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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In some sports at harvard the athletes are dominated by international students. So its not even American athletes getting the boost. [/quote]

Correct.  [/quote]

The odds of American kids being athletically recruited to Ivies for niche sports such as fencing, squash, field hockey,etc… are slim because of this.[/quote]

Harvard Rosters
Men's squash: 8 foreign 4 US
Women's squash: 5 foreign 9 US
Men's fencing: 1 foreign 13 US
Women's fencing: 0 foreign 15 US
Field hockey: 13 foreign 13 US

Doesn't look like the odds are too bad for US students in niche sports.

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I’m all for international athletes making these sports better and more competitive but these results show that the number of roster spots that kids from this country can fill are lower than what might be otherwise expected. This makes athletic recruiting even more difficult for many of these sports. [/quote]

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/research/demographics/2021RES_ISATrendsDivSprt.pdf

This report gives participation of international athletes playing specific sports. Really the big one is tennis (63% in Division I) followed by ice hockey (39%) and men's soccer (37%).

Note that D1 men's fencing is only 20% international and women's 16%. Not a huge threat from foreigners.

There are under 1,000 athletes playing college squash so really you shouldn't worry about international athletes shutting out US kids from something so insignificant.[/quote]

Honestly, seems like playing football is the best route for a male in the Ivies.  Every school has a team, they need to recruit a ton of players, participation is down (at least in UMC areas) due to concussion risk and you have almost no foreign competition.  Sure, your kid may have CTE down the road...but that's a problem for another day.[/quote]

CTE risk is not high for a typical player for an Ivy --- no pop warner because kid doing other things.  Just high school and college.  Also people pay attention to concussions and most UMC parents would not let the kid play anymore if they had several.[/quote]

Yeah, but you are missing the big picture...how many UMC parents won't even let their kid even remotely consider playing tackle football to begin with because of the headline risk.  Compare that to 20 years ago and you will see a massive difference in participation.[/quote]

People always say this, but have you ever met anyone with interested kids whose parents prevented them from playing?  I haven't, at least not at the post-puberty level (I understand not playing Pop Warner).[/quote]

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