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[quote=Anonymous]NP but i want to echo a general theme that i don't think gets shouted enough: That women undersell their salary potential.

Women NEVER talk about salaries.  We don't talk about it with our mothers or our friends in HS or college. We talk about doing things that make us happy.  Meanwhile, men are talking about salaries.  Dads are telling their sons what they make.  Dads are talking about salary ranges when it comes to job choices.  But this is taboo for women.  Why do you think women are also worse salary negotiators once they are job-hunting?

So then women graduate college and target the lowest fruit, the warmest fuzziest jobs - like museum intern and magazine intern.  After a year, maybe they get an entry level admin job. Essentially a secretary - something you don't even need a college degree for.  And they talk amongst their friends, also all making terrible money and think it's all normal.

Then -- women on this site and others - start citing national employment and salary statistics for why making $45k is good money, and we live in a bubble if we're making over six figures.  Because the average household income in the US is something like $50k. But they ignore that those "average" and "median" numbers are skewed by the 40% of americans who are retired,  10% who are full time or PT students, stay at home parents, moms who work in bonbon jobs just to get out of the house because their spouse is the primary earner, etc.  And the "payroll" numbers ignore anyone self employed (which includes many high earners) and i think bonuses too.  Yes, my friends in DC live in a bubble and make high salaries.  But DH went to a state school in the south, and his group of friends (now in the late 40s) came from varied backgrounds - some like DH and his best friend, very poor.  But all of them are making $200k+.  That's pretty standard money for someone with non-garbage college degree in the middle of their career, so long as they put any effort into being a primary (or equal) breadwinner.

I can't get over how many women on here, and some other well educated forums i spend time on, justify their own low salaries, completely ignoring the financial realities of the men around them.   [/quote]

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