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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read the title of this thread. "Bike lobby is too strong?"

Uh, how about "road safety lobby is too weak"

If people on bikes are your biggest concern, you must live in the fancy areas of NW, but the city is way bigger than your rich real estate. People driving horrifically is a far bigger issue on my side of town in northeast, I barely encounter a biker on my drive to work and they're the least of my concerns. I do encounter crappy road design and idiot drivers without a care in the world about running stop signs or red lights daily.

If DC does more to keep bikers in separate lanes, what do I care? Are you all those rich NW anti bike people who have nothing better to do than tweet from your fancy $1M+ rowhouses? Ew.[/quote]
Cyclist fatalities (regardless of cause) since 2018 have been either 2 or 3 every year. Never higher, never lower. Pedestrian fatalities are lower today than 2018.

I’m sorry but the data doesn’t back your feelings and it’s interesting what your priorities are when homicides are 110% higher than a decade ago and rising.

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[b]DC traffic fatalities were 40 in 2022 (highest level since 2007) and 25 so far this year[/b], but you cannot conclude they are less than 2018 (36) until the year is over. I can walk and chew gum at the same time and also be concerned about rising crime, homicides, etc. and also be concerned about zero enforcement of crappy drivers that tick me off every single darn day even when they don't kill somebody but it's a near miss. Especially when I'm a parent of kids and see DC drivers be idiots during dropoff.

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Obviously the current year is 2022, so you are referring to 2021. In 2021 there were 3 cyclist fatalities and 17 pedestrians. The other 20 were drivers (9), motorcyclists (9) and passengers (2). It is interesting you intentionally conflate driver deaths when it suits you.

The 17 pedestrian fatalities were an anomaly. In 2019 there were 10 which is more consistent with the average since 2017 (13).

So far this year, the numbers are consistent with the long-term average: 3 cyclists and 13 pedestrians.

It is clear that you are not concerned about the rising homicide rate because you don’t think it affects you. While you prefer to focus on and want the city to prioritize the issues that do concern you, but which are not a rising issue.[/quote]

I can be concerned about both. Literally watched a car drive away at 80mph down my alley after a homicide  10 houses down when I was out back. Both the homicide and the car that took off so fast it would have killed somebody were my concern. Also saw the video of a kid knocked head over heels by a car running a stop sign 2 blocks from me (but hey, they lived! so they don't count, right!).

Again, admit you live in rich NW which is why you care so much about the bike lobby. Admit it. You don't deal with the crap drivers OR crime. Both are a concern.[/quote]

PS one of the reasons to love road safety design in other parts of the city is it makes it more difficult for the criminals committing homicides to take off at 100mph after committing crimes like gang shootings which happen where I live.. road safety also becomes another way of slowing criminals down, so I see it as part of the homicide control, they're both related ;)  My street is getting speed bumps - great news, because we're like the getaway highway for criminals. It's a 2 for 1 deal![/quote]

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