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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else! I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here. We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc. None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler. Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.[/quote] Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either. [/quote] The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas. [/quote] No, actually it is urban living that allows for an unspoiled wilderness. The rednecks who live there take it for granted and want to exploit the landscape for their own personal gain, everyone else be damned. Re: Florida, large scale human settlement is only possible due to massive environmental destruction like draining millions of acres of wetlands and converting the entire state into a series of artificial canals. Not really comparable to many other regions. BTW Florida is quite red in the center of the state and there is very little that looks anything like the unspoiled natural jewel that Florida once was.[/quote] Are you saying that your urban home always existed and that no "beautiful natural landscape" ever existed in its place? What makes your destruction of natural landscape better? [/quote] She's saying that concentrating people in small, dense areas, leaves room for nature not to be paved over elsewhere. Not that there was never nature in the small, dense places - but you can mitigate against more habitat loss by building up and increasing density instead of pushing people out further and further into areas that aren't very developed yet.[/quote] By that rationale, the difference between an okay level of nature destruction and not-okay level is completely subjective and arbitrary. It can then be argued that anyone who lives in more than a sleeping bag is not mitigating habitat loss. [/quote] It’s not arbitrary, it’s this thing called science. There are observable changes in natural ecosystems depending on the amount of human impact. Florida has historically allowed the destruction of it’s natural resources for profit on an unimaginable scale.[/quote] Are you saying there is no observable impact by humans living in urban environments?[/quote]
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