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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So absolutely absurd to not push kids to do advanced stuff. Especially since some average people are deciding the standards.

Push your kids to do well in school, on screener tests, and everywhere, becait will make them better at the end. They will learn about themselves the most.

Go for Algebra in 7th, even in 6th if you can.

LA should have better acceleration too.

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Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! For goodness sake,where would Bill Gates be without a college degree ?! Push ! Push ! Push ![/quote]

Bill Gates did programming in high school...when that was almost unheard of.  sometimes it is good to be silent rather than parade your ignorance.  [/quote]

Bill Gates was programming since he was 13 years old. He forgot to check his privilege, bow down to "equity officers" and stop his accelerated education. He should have studied "Equity, Inclusivity and Diversity". [/quote]

Down with success. [/quote]

These days, you get more "public support" if you are trans, queer or some minority group than if you are motivated passionate student.[/quote]

That's what the pro-privilege parents like to tell themselves. [/quote]

You are serious about "privilege" how about dropping preference for children of alumni at universities? That goes a long way in increasing the capacity that is available to others.

How about actually helping minorities and economically disadvantaged from pre-k and in FCPS from k onwards with extra additional support. Special after school programs, additional hours, tutors, etc. right from k. Actively put money towards education of these children, who deserve this kind of support at an early age which builds a solid foundation.

But no, what you want is really signal your woke status and pretend to help. Getting 50 kids to TJ from these groups would allow you to signal your own moral superiority. All the tens of thousands of other kids from these groups who need help are ignored. There is no story there.

My child and I help coach kids at an elementary school in math from 3rd grade and many kids show a big improvement and lose fear of math. Many are  economically disadvantaged. Some actively love math competitions. It is very little effort on our part actually. FCPS could scale this 1000x with a little investment. But no this is too low level and not much woke signaling is possible here. So they would rather focus on getting a few more kids to TJ to signal their wokeness.[/quote]

Good points. grunt work isn't woke/cool. [/quote]

Agree, grunt work isn't cool, but if you're happy with your kid doing worksheets instead of learning something meaningful go for it.[/quote]

This has always been my difficulty with the attitude of TJ parents. It always seems like they are more concerned with setting a high floor for their child's achievement and potential than cultivating the possibility of a high ceiling. It's as though they're terrified that if their child doesn't end up as a doctor, lawyer, or full-stack web developer, that they're going to be working at a 7-11 or a drive thru. It's so myopic and it results in their kids not achieving what they could.[/quote]

The poster spoke about doing the grunt work early so that kids can be helped over a longer period of time, build a good foundation and lose their fear of math. You are just saying something different. some fancy high horse stuff.  care to elaborate in any case - what is cultivating high ceiling? seems like fun. i am guessing it doesn't involve work(sheets). [/quote]

I appreciate your acknowledgment that you're unfamiliar with the concept - too few on this board are willing to own up to it.

What I'm referring to by prioritizing a high floor over a high ceiling is the preference for financial security and stability over the pursuit of dreams and greatness. The two are not mutually exclusive goals but the tendency is for TJ parents to treat them as such and push their children toward the former.[/quote]

you seem to mean well. but have no idea how dreams and greatness is achieved. it is never pretty. [/quote]

It’s never pretty, but it also never involves parents forcing their kids into fields they don’t care about just to maintain a high floor for earning potential.[/quote]

maybe. reflective of a scrappy immigrant population for whom education has been a key to achieving (or trying to achieve) the American dream. you will have more ballet dancers in the next generation. [/quote]

Yeah. I buy that argument when you're talking about the under-resourced and economically disadvantaged Asian population that the new TJ admissions process was intended to - and successfully did! - help. (Remember, poor Asians were statistically the biggest beneficiaries of the new admissions process.)

I don't buy it when you're talking about families out in Ashburn who drive their kids to private school in their tricked-out Tesla while trying to shoehorn them into STEM.[/quote]

Your selective choosing doesn't change the facts - these parents are mostly first gen immigrants. just because they are doing better than you, you are envious. [/quote]

I highly doubt they’re doing better than me, based on how they treat their children. They might have more money than me, but I REALLY doubt that they’re doing better. [/quote]

Clutching at straws. [/quote]

Nope. Just really happy and fulfilled.[/quote]

haha. just try having kids and staying married for a start. the bar is low for you. [/quote]

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