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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The problem with private school and top college admissions is that colleges are going to take the top academic kids from each school. So if you are middle of the pack at private you are behind the top public school kids in the pecking order.  And by the time admissions goes through the top public school kids all of the seats are allocated. So the bottom 70% of private school kids are at a disadvantage. I think that is the issue in a nutshell.[/quote]

No, did the read the OP?  Audi missed the point entirely  
The issue is that the top academic kids at NCS (this year) year are not getting spots in top 30 or top 40 schools,  The top spots are going entirely (or 95%)  to athletes, legacy and URM. There is of course some overlap of course (athletes, legacies or URN with top academics)  but if you're not one of these categories, you're not getting in to a top college from NCS--even if you are a TOP academic student.  OP was asking where the top 20 academic kids can apply because the top colleges are off the table if you don't have a hook  [/quote]

I actually don’t think this statement is true -   The kids who gained admission at those schools ARE the top kids (for the most points) and they all also happen to benefit from a hook.  I look at that list and I can only think of maybe 2 kids where I am surprised at the placement.  The issue is the other maybe 2-3 top kids, truly top cum laude, terminal math in advanced calculus etc.  are not getting into top 30 colleges.   The kids at the BU/BC/Tulane/WM are more the “top 40%” kids who at NCS are still exceptional.   10 years ago that group would be at UMich, Tufts etc.  5 years ago Tufts, Davidson, Wake etc.  and now it’s like the B+\A- kids are BU/BC level which to some seems less impressive.  
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I would say that there is about 75% overlap. A decent 25% of the kids graduating as top academic kids are not getting into top 30 schools because they lack a hook.  Some other things I would like to mention:
1)legacy is also not just ordinary legacy at NCS, especially this year.  It's big donor legacy or 2-3 generation legacy.  Plenty of legacy grads do not (and did not) get in, even with very good stats. 
2)I know that NO kid is guaranteed a spot in a top 30 school but it's pretty crazy that you can graduate with an A-/B+ average at NCS and not crack the top 40 schools.  I have a daughter at NCS and also have a public school graduate and can say that the work load, discipline, and shear smarts required to get A-/B+ average at NCS is 5 times what it required my 
public school kid to get for straight As. My kid does not attend NCS for a boost in college admissions but this is sobering (? not sure that is word I'm looking for) none-the-less.   [/quote]

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