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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Look up "deconstruction."  It's a real thing and its momentum is gaining, especially among millennials and Gen X. (too many links to waste my time posting).  Basically the idea is they like the "Jesus is love" stuff, but not the nutty stuff in the Bible or the heavy theology which makes zero sense in today's modern world. Poo-poo this if you want but you're behind the times. [/quote]

Deconstruction has been around in literature and other fields for at least 50 years. It doesn’t mean what you think it means—it’s about the relationship of text to meaning. Also, none of this helps in your lame, made-up skirmish about what people actually call themselves. [/quote]

No. You're way behind the times. Look it up with respect to current religious beliefs among younger Americans.[/quote]

Strongly suggest you stop telling people to "Look it up" regarding information that you won't bother to present yourself.[/quote]

O.K, that's fair.  Doesn't change the fact fewer and fewer people are religious, and defections among well known artists and celebrities have increased.  Deconstruction is accelerating; ignore it if you wish.[/quote]

Not ignoring it.  But you are ignoring the request to demonstrate that this is actually happening based on data you say is readily available but which you do not present. [/quote]

DP here and not exactly sure who is arguing what, but as for the claim that "fewer and fewer people are religious" that has been shown in study after study.  These are literally the first 5 google links on that subject:

https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/12/14/religion-united-states-americans-study/8899494002/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/14/the-factors-driving-the-growth-of-religious-nones-in-the-u-s/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/upshot/big-drop-in-share-of-americans-calling-themselves-christian.html
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211214-non-religious-surge-in-us-as-christianity-declines

Didn't read these and some appear to refer to the same study, but I think the data shows the fact pretty clearly.[/quote]

That’s not the point. The tiny little “win” OP is obsessing about is whether people who don’t call themselves “religious” instead call themselves “spiritual” because, OP for some reason keeps insisting, the word “spiritual” is “cooler” and “more socially acceptable” (actual quotes). All of these surveys asked about religious vs. none/unaffiliated/atheist/agnostic, and none of them tests for the word “spiritual.” So, none of these studies asked, for example, whether the unaffiliated call themselves “spiritual” instead, or whether people who identify as religious also call themselves spiritual. [/quote]
OP here and just to reiterate, [b]I am NOT the person on here claiming "religious" is "uncool." I'm annoyed that he took over the post with that obnoxious premise, because I thought it was an interesting discussion before it got derailed[/b]. People pretty clearly shared their experiences being religious, spiritual, both, or neither, and whether or not it sounded "cool" or was "socially acceptable" wasn't a factor. Religion and spirituality are personal and everyone has slightly different understandings of what they mean. I posted because I was curious how people use the words and live their religious/spiritual lives.[/quote]

I'm still confused where you see that someone ever said that?  No one has made that claim on this thread.[/quote]

“Spiritual is uncool” poster is a dog with a bone. She’s too tedious and obsessed to dig it out again. [/quote]

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