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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts. [/quote] We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…[/quote] Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law. [/quote] Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…[/quote] "I used to recruit for Big 3." Why do you ESL posters make up stories like this? Nobody even knows what "Big 3" you're referring to. You don't recruit for anyone. You're just angry that your non-athlete kid was rejected by whatever Ivy League school he/she wanted to attend, so you make up stories on DCUM. [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts. [/quote] We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…[/quote] Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law. [/quote] Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…[/quote] Glad you think you’re funny. But, apparently you do go in looking for an officer of the pretzel club. Gotcha! Big 3 of what? Accounting firms that do ops consulting? Not what I’m talking about. [/quote] I’m sorry that you do not have a good handle on what big business and consulting firms are seeking…an ivy is very impressive, but the major has to match. We will not hire a non-business major for finance, for example, unless you have the experience (through internships, etc). No one will take a chance, just because you played a sport (or joined a sorority, or was captain of the pretzel club). Just the facts, here. What was your students major, BTW?[/quote] Hey, it's another person with an imagination! Someone who "will not hire a non-business major for finance." Nobody cares who your imaginary company hires! When we say "finance" on here, we're generally referring to jobs in things like investment banking, sell-side S&T, buyside jobs at hedge funds and in private equity, etc. "Business" majors are never a strong majority of those hired into these jobs, since few Ivies even offer majors (concentrations!) in trade school nonsense. I get that it really grinds your gears that lacrosse playing gov majors from Harvard or Dartmouth aren't struggling to find work, but, well, they aren't and likely won't be anytime soon.[/quote]
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