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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For everyone upset over the abuse - you do realize parental abuse is part of pretty much every Disney movie, yea?

Cinderella - evil stepmother, no punishment or redemption or apology, Cinderella just gets saved by a prince.

Tangled - evil woman kidnaps baby and locks her in a tower

Moana - parents abuse her for wanting to live her own life, rather than obeying them

Frozen - parents abuse Elsa by expecting her to just suppress her feelings and hide who she is. Abuse Anna by not explaining the situation and letting her grow up alone and isolated.

It goes on and on. It’s just part of Disney movies. Why so upset over *this* abuse? [/quote]

You have a very low bar for what you consider abusive. Moana and Elsa's parents were protective, not abusive. Elsa's parents didn't understand her poor and were afraid that people would be hurt by it. Moana's parents didn't want her to drown in trying to pass the reef, as her dad's friend did. ;'

Abuela wasn't abusive, either. Have none of you lived in a family where a couple of kids were literally gifted but not all? I did. I wasn't abused by my parents, nor were my gifted sisters. My parents just had way higher expectations for them than they did for me. They still loved me just as much. We all try to please our parents, and that doesn't make us all the victims of abuse. Abuela thought they had a higher calling, and her family members tried to live up to that. That's what Mirabel's sisters literally sing about - pressure to be perfect and letting go of that.

That said, it's not a great movie. I'm just tired of reading all these "Abuela was so abusive and such a villain" posts. She was neither. [/quote]

Did you hide away from your family? Either figuratively metaphorically or literally because you didn't have the special gift They idealized.  [b]Did you sleep in a nursery until you were 20 because you didn't get a room because you didn't have the special gift[/b]. [/quote]

None of that makes anyone abusive!

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The bolded does.  And I think it was very well established that Abuela treated Mirabel as "less than" because she didn't have a magic gift.  Julieta tells Abuela that she's always too hard on Mirabel, Abuela basically ignores Mirabel except to 1) tell her to stay out of the way or 2) snap at her.   This isn't about parents or grandparents having different expectations for different ability levels in their kids.  Abuela treated Mirabel like crap because she wasn't perfect.  That's abusive.[/quote]

She didn’t treat her like crap. She just didn’t treat her as gifted. Telling someone to stay out of the way counts as abuse now? What a snowflake you must be. And plenty of people don’t get new bedrooms as they age. To use *that* as proof of abuse is laughable. It’s not like they moved her into the scullery.[/quote]

The 6 year old got a room. The 16 year old did not. That is abusive.  The only reason he got a room was because he had a special gift and she did not.  She was the family scapegoat which is a form of abuse. I'm sorry that you can't see that.[/quote]

DP, as far as I can see it was the [i]house [/i]that was generating the rooms with their special doors and themed decor, not the family... Mirabel did have a room, she just didn't move to a different one. So maybe Casita is the a*hole.

and I'm not the person you just replied to, but it's a bit creepy how you keep saying "I'm sorry for you that you don't see things exactly I do" and implying that they therefore be victims of abuse. It's actually okay for people to have different interpretations of and reactions to a piece of art. You don't need to pity anyone because they don't see things the way you do. I promise you, we're okay.[/quote]

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