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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Until we summon the national will to outlaw guns and put everyone who won’t comply in prison for the rest of their lives thus removing them from society, nothing will change. I don’t care if we have to put 20 million people in prison for life if that’s what it takes, because that’s the only thing that will stop it. [/quote]

what will that stop? That will just literally straight up cause a civil war.[/quote]

Last time I checked there were 330,000,000 people in America. I’m pretty sure 310,000,000 people would be able to handle 20,000,000 gun nutters.  :roll: [/quote]

there are about 80-100 million gun owners, about half of which own semi-auto rifles. so that is 40-50 million. The entire police + military (combat arm) of the country is just about 2 million. [b]Tell me how this is suppose to go again?[/b] [/quote]

I’m not a policy expert, but I would suggest using the model that has worked in numerous conflict zones in the developing world:

First, the government establishes a date, by which all arms in civilian hands must be turned in. This can be done at any variety of locations like police stations or areas set up specifically as collection sites. At the beginning of the covid pandemic there were drive through vaccination centers. The same could be offered for guns.

After that date passes, all arms are prohibited. The second step is large bounties or rewards are offered for turning in people who still have guns, or have hidden them in caches. The goal is to greatly incentivize people to turn gun criminals in, either through cash rewards or tax incentives. This will achieve three goals: 1) it will get recalcitrant gun hoarders arrested and removed from society via the bounty incentive, 2) it will make those still keeping guns go into hiding/dispose of their guns, 3) will drastically reduce the number of guns still remaining in the hands of the public.

Anyone caught with a gun after the deadline goes to prison, for life. No exceptions. No family visits, no parole, no release. They are literally gone from the world. I realize there would have to be a considerable up-front cost for constructing enough prisons to house all these people, but I really don’t think we’d be talking about more than 5-10 million people at most. Yes, there might be 90,000,000 people who own guns, but the vast majority would comply in the face of such prospects as the penalty would provide for. Very few people would be willing to spend the rest of their lives in prison and never again see their families over keeping a gun. And knowing that their neighbors, family or friends would turn them in for thousands of dollars in rewards would ensure that they’d know they wouldn’t be able to evade detection. They’d have no choice at all but to comply.

This has worked before, and there is absolutely no reason to doubt that it would work here as well.

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[b]How to create Afghanistan in 10 easy steps[/b][/quote]

Im genuinely confused by this sort of flippant remark. Can you elaborate? Because I cannot understand what you’re implying.

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NP.

Not sure either.

But the fanatic gun control poster assumes it will be so easy for police or the military to just take away every citizens guns.

Even ignoring the US Constitution, posse commitatus act, etc.,

- how’d our military do with simply disarming the Afghans?  [/quote]

I think I’m probably the “fanatic gun safety poster”  :roll:  you’re speaking of.

Yes, that’s exactly what I expect the police to do. Constitution aside, yes. Some things are too important to restrained by a two century old document penned by slave owners who didn’t want to pay their fair share of taxes. Stop getting all hung up on the constitution.

And going around and rounding up guns in my scenario is exactly what I expect the police to do. Round up the guns, arrest the owners, hand them over to the court system for prosecution and sentencing commensurate with the law, and if necessary, use lethal force on those who try to resist.

That’s what they’re being paid to do. I expect them to do their jobs. If they won’t, fire them and hire someone who will. Or we should seek out the assistance of the international community to help with seizing arms from civilians if our own law enforcement is unwilling.  [/quote]

You’re really just asking for civil war. Be careful what you wish for.[/quote]

A few million wanna be militia whack jobs getting crushed by the army will hardly be a “civil war”. I see it as more akin to taking out the trash. It would make for great binge watching. It’ll be bigger than “Tiger King”. [/quote]

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