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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] It is a exactly the idea that everyone else sits in traffic. That’s the whole point of HOT lanes. They establish a market price on lost time due to traffic. This is a stupid game. No toll and you cry “induced demand”. Toll and you cry “not fair”. And then in another breath complain that roads are subsidized and people are not paying the full cost.[/quote] Those are just statements of fact. -If there are no tolls, then there will be induced demand. -If there are tolls, then the people who don't pay the tolls will sit in the same traffic (or maybe worse traffic) than before. -The roads are subsidized, and drivers are not paying the full costs of driving. It's up to you to decide how you want those facts to affect your opinions. If Hogan were proposing to toll existing lanes, and Hogan were not proposing to do everything at supposedly $0 taxpayer expense because a for-profit company is going to do it all, then we could have a discussion about putting a market price on driving. Neither is true, however. Hogan is promising a free lunch for everyone, and you know there's no such thing as a free lunch.[/quote] Absolute clown shoes. I have an idea, whatever pitfall amount of money you make is not fair because someone makes less. So you won’t be allowed to make more than the lowest paid person. Fair enough now? Clearly you are a proto-Trotskyite. Which makes a lot of sense. [/quote] Dude. I haven't said anything about fairness. Do you think the people who say they support the project, would still support it if they found out that the only way they will be able to avoid sitting in traffic is if they pay high tolls? Notice how Hogan hasn't sold the project as congestion relief only for people who are willing and able to pay high tolls? Have you asked yourself why he hasn't done that?[/quote] Pathetic. Both above and below. [quote] Yes, and everybody else is going to be sitting in the same traffic they were sitting in before, watching affluent people pay their way into faster car trips. It's odd how the Hogan administration isn't making that clear to Maryland residents, don't you think?[/quote][/quote]
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