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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]At my church, we have a Passover gathering. It is not a Seder.

There is a reading from the book of Exodus, followed by a brief prayer, followed by a simple meal of soup and bread that is available to the entire community, including those in need of a meal.

That's it. It's not a Seder. It is a recognition of Passover and of God's mercy and protection.

That is part of my religious observance as a Christian. I will observe my religious traditions as I see fit. [/quote]

ok, call it an Exodus meal. [/quote]

I don't have to call it anything to please you. Neither does my pastor or my church community. We are having Passover Supper. Literally all are welcome. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if you don't like it, you don't have to attend. [/quote]

yeah well - with that attitude, don’t then be surprised when actual Jewish people are upset at you. You can choose to be offensive, but you can’t escape the consequences. [/quote]

Yup. I feel like this whole “we’ll do what we want” attitude smacks of such privilege.

Clearly these people have never had to worry that their traditions might be assimilated and lost. They don’t understand.[/quote]

Anything that is "lost" is likely because you belong to a religion that very strictly bars outsiders from entry. Ever thought of that?

Me doing what I do in my church does not have anything to do with what you do in your household or in your place of worship. Maybe if someone from your community finds their way to my church and is interested and engaged, it is literally because the motto of my particular house of worship is "All are welcome, and all means all." [/quote]

Really? Church is a welcoming place? Tell that to my best friend who is having a hard time finding a place to baptize his baby daughter because he is a man married to another man. [/quote]

dp Sorry pp but, do you force yourself into an organization where your ideals and theirs don't mix?  I don't think that if the church believes that gay marriage is against their beliefs they should be forced to accept them.  What if a homophonic wanted to join a gay pride parade?  Would you expect the gays to accept them?  Of course not.

This is not what I believe but, there are churches for everyone. Your friend hasn't found the right one.  [/quote]

I mean I believe in accepting everyone but I don't believe in forcing a church to baptize a child.  It isn't needed.[/quote]

So how does this translate to, "All are welcome, and all means all"? Please do explain it to me. All are clearly not welcome. Even if my friend just wanted to attend with his spouse and child, baptism aside, he would NOT be welcome. I don't believe for a second that PP's church would be a welcoming place for an openly gay couple and a child born using science.

I've never heard of a "homophobic" person or literally anyone being turned away from a pride parade so that's just a silly comparison. [/quote]

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