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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thanks for that link. I don’t really agree with him. For one, no one I know goes back to slavery in Egypt as the common oppression reference point. For me, and the Jews I know, it’s the Holocaust and the continued anti-Semitism we face. Most of us have relatives who died in the Holocaust and many of us are here because of the Holocaust or the pogroms. It’s far from ancient history. It’s the experience of our parents and grandparents, and our continued problems today.

Second, I don’t agree that Jews were mainstream by the 1950s. We aren’t mainstream now. We are 1% of the population. Elite universities didn’t get rid of their formal Jewish quotas until the 1960s in some cases, and informal discrimination persisted well after that. The movie School Ties is set in the 1950s and is about the anti-Semitism a Jewish kid faces at a private school.

Listen — our experience is much better than Black Americans’ experience, but I think he really misses the mark. [/quote]

Curious what you thought about the rest of the interview; I thought he was incredibly thoughtful and able to describe Jewish-Black relations and that historical context in a way that wove together delicate social and political issues really well.

In terms of the "mainstream," thing, it's not so much the raw number of Jewish Americans, but the fact that Jews had started to make solid inroads into the power structure of whites in the 1950's, in a way that blacks hadn't been able to access (and many would say, they still haven't been able to access). This article on the Jewish Golden Age in America in the 1950's explains in better detail: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/a-golden-age-for-jews/
"It was not just in terms of their security and social acceptance that contemporaries viewed the postwar era as a golden age for American Jews; prosperity characterized the period as well. By 1955, Jews of East European background had risen “more or less to the level previously achieved by the German Jews,” and economic distinctions between the earlier and later immigrants had largely disappeared."

Discrimination exists for all groups of people and will never fully be zero, unfortunately. There was tremendous anti-Catholic discrimination that JFK had to overcome to secure the democratic nomination in 1960. I just hope we can appreciate each other's experiences for what they are without drawing comparisons between them, and simultaneously distracting from the central message at hand with the protests, which is about black lives in present-day America.[/quote]

Incorrect. Whites and Asians do not face racism.[/quote]

They do, from blacks. Particularly Asians.  Blacks are virulently racist towards Asians.  [/quote]

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