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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is remarkable that people so often come up with “who will respond to domestic violence?” as the counterargument here. Cops are awful at responding to it—and more likely to commit it than people in other occupations, partly because of the traits police work selects for, partly because of how the job brutalizes them, and partly because when they do it, they get away with it.

Pick a better thing to pearl-clutch about.[/quote]

+1. The amount of faux outrage for victims of domestic violence, when it finally “benefits” some people to finally care, is nauseating.[/quote]

Wut? Have you read the posts mentioning domestic violence? T[b]hey're all about giving this to social workers. [/b]Which appears to be what you're saying. I haven't read any posts about not doing anything about domestic violence, even from the Cons here.[/quote]

Exactly how does this work?  So, if I'm getting the crap beat out of me by my husband, and I call 911, and say I'm being assaulted, the dispatcher is going to say, "Who is assaulting you?"  And if I reply, my husband (or boyfriend or whatever), the dispatcher is going to say, "Sorry, we can't send the police for domestic disputes.  We're sending a social worker." So, then, we'll have social workers who will rush to the scene?  Or sometime in the next few days someone will stop by (after I'm already in the hospital)?  On the other hand, if I'm being assaulted on the street by a stranger, the Police will show up?  [/quote]

As has been repeatedly stated, the diverted funding would be to things such as prevention work for abusers, giving them resources and supportive services to STOP abusing their partners and not just having the only response be to in-the-moment crisis or jail, as an example. Not that there won't be in-the-moment crisis response by cops, just that we'd like to take SOME of the funding for cops to reallocate it to services that are actually working to end DV, not just respond to it after it's happened. I'm not sure what the exact plan would be, but that's the idea that's been floating around the domestic violence services movement for a while now, not just during this time.

The idea being, for those still wondering, is that if enough services are provided for people outside of cops' presence and that aren't just criminal justice in nature, there would be a reduction in need for the cops to be called at all. If you provide employment training or housing assistance to a victim, perhaps she might leave when she would otherwise not have the financial means to do so. Or prevention work is successful, therefore the man stops abusing his wife, no need to call the police. Right now, all of the cops' responses are after-the-fact, after the abuse. Some of this money could be used to work toward trying to respond BEFORE abuse becomes a truly violent act needing the cops.  [/quote]

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