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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Obviously between the two schools I would pick whichever is the in-state. No question about that.

Now if both are OOS, these factors should be in the consideration:

1. UVA is more like a private school. As matter of fact UVA was considering at one point fully becoming a private school. With that kind of school vibe in mind, you get the idea that it will be more like Brown, Dartmouth type. Very different from some other state schools at the extreme, like UIUC, Purdue, Michigan, etc, which are huge but research strong, less emphasizing on undergraduates. UNC is somewhere in the middle between UVA and those large state schools. UVA has an enrollment of 16,777 and UNC 19,117, according to usnews. Both are in preferred size compared to the other humongous state schools.

3. A brutally research heavy school can bring opportunities to undergrads and can bring apathy toward undergrads as well. The research heavy state schools typically have many young research faculties in the middle of establishing themselves in their careers. Their first concern is their own research output (that's why the schools are very active in research), and they have their eyes much more on their research assistants (graduate students) than undergrad teaching. There is just that tendency that many f these faculty members teach bad courses as their minds are not on the minimumly required undergrad teaching responsibilities, if any. So you may really want to reconsider if too much a research heavy is a good thing for you.
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1. UVa being more like a private school is rather hard to digest considering its only 2000 students smaller than UNC. Students at UVA will certainly on average be wealthier than UNC, but UVA is still 66% in-state. UNC is not between UVA and other large schools - against its only 2000 students larger than UVA while being 12,000 students smaller than Berkeley/Michigan/UIUC. So UNC will be far more similar to UVA than to Berkeley/Michigan/UIUC. Brown and Dartmouth have 7,000 and 4,000 students - UVA will be far more similar to UNC and Berkeley/Michigan by virtue of its size and the composition of its student population than to Brown/Dartmouth

3. Young faculty at UNC will certainly possibly be more focused on research than teaching. Older faculty who have accomplished tenure may be more interested in teaching. However note that these professors are also going to have been more successful throughout their careers. While research professors have to care about graduate students as well, they can in undergraduates as research assistants as well which is a phenomenal opportunity and helps [b]a lot[/b] for medical school and graduate school admissions.
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