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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]F this, I will have my baby at home[/quote]

All statistics point to home birth being incredibly dangerous for the mother and child, but you do you. Good luck transferring to a hospital in the middle of a pandemic. [/quote]

What statistics exactly are you referring to? In many European countries, homebirth is the norm, and they have much better maternal outcomes than we do. Holland for one.

Now, if you're referring to a woman with poor or no prenatal care, who watched a youtube on birth at home and broke out the tarps-then yeah, probably not good stats.[/quote]

she's making up the fact about "statistics".   "Statistics" don't point to home birth being more dangerous than hospital delivery at all.  it's not appropriate for every women of course but it's completely safe for many if not most.  [/quote]

Actually, statistics do point this, in Europe and in the US. Also, you can’t compare US homebirth to Europe. It’s comparing apples to oranges. Midwives in Europe are highly regulated, unlike in the US, which has a 3 tier system of midwives ranging from ones who are trained and competent, ie CNMs, who ones who are not at all, ie CPMs and lay midwives. The studies that show how “great” European midwives are are done in countries where midwives are fully integrated in the health care system, where there are standard, strict, and widely held protocols for women who are eligible for midwife care and the get screened for it (and it’s only low risk women who get midwives so it’s not high risk women like women trying for a second VBAC or twin births like CPMs routinely do here), the midwives are highly regulated and held accountable by professional governing bodies (again, not the case here for those who are not CNMs—MANA is a joke and their midwives don’t meet international standards of midwifery) and protocols for when transfer to hospital becomes a necessity, unlike here when CPMs dump women at hospitals and leave because they have no relationship with the facility and lack training to even practice there. Unfortunately the CNM community is closely aligned in the US with the CPM/CM community and that means a lot of ideological blur about natural birth makes its way into CNM curriculum and philosophy. This is all problematic for women and babies. [/quote]

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