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Calm down Marie Antoinette. People are not judging you for your decision, whatever it is. I'm not even clear if you have a kid or not as it doesn't seem like you've talked about their experiences. But going nyah nyah nyah when other people openly talk about their experiences and saying they can't afford Yale and walking away is something that you somehow are taking very personally and defensive about, to the point you openly challenge their experiences and even implying they're fraudulent and then still slapping them in the face with claims of privilege. [/quote]

First: You need to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution.  I think you misunderstand which side you are on.

Second: I mentioned previously I am full pay X2.  My choice, I do not hold anyone to my financial values.

But when people say they are pissed because the most generous schools on the planet are unaffordable, they ignore the fact that 99.9% of the families in the world don't get to make that choice for many reasons.  That's what offends me.  Don't come in here and dump on the most generous colleges, who moved hard to need-based aid over the past years, to justify your choice.  Think about the people who have real hardships and no assets, and can't afford their state directional because the governments are choking the funds.  I actually can't believe this is even a discussion.  What about those kids?

I'm going to stop now, because I am repeating myself.  I will return if the poster wants to show the actual data and I will run the NPC again.[/quote]

Well said, PP.

I'm scratching my head reading a lot of the comments here.  I think we would likely all agree that the staggering costs of college today are a bad thing, and we would all welcome reform.  But the people with $200,000 plus incomes (or those with lower incomes, but lots of assets not including retirement) [b]acting as if they have some special, serious hardship[/b] [b]because they can't afford to send their kid to the most elite schools in the country[/b] need to look at the actual hardships faced by most of the country and the world.  If you want to complain that very rich families have more options than regular rich families, that's your prerogative, and the some goes if you are bitter that a tiny handful of low income people with very bright kids have access to something your rich kids don't.  But you should understand that many of us find your sense of entitlement to be offensive.  [/quote]

Is that what's really going on here? I don't see that at all.[b] I see posters firmly saying we can't afford X college for Y reasons. They're not whining. They're stating something specific. [/b]  But apparently they're not allowed to express regret either without people jumping on their toes.

What is whining are the posters saying "[u]how dare you say you can't afford X college when you make Y amount[/u]" and ignore all the many many many reasons why that can be the case. That's where Marie Antoinette steps in - the utter cluelessness to how other people can have obstacles or obligations despite a comfortable income. And those illustrate the flaws to the financial aid calculators.

As you said, most if not all of us agree the high tuition bills are ridiculous and scandalous. [/quote]

You left something out of the bolded - those same posters (or many of them) are lamenting that they don't get aid to allow them to afford those colleges. They're claiming it's unfair for elite institutions to charge them the sticker price, while they give others who have even less money aid.

That's absurd, bordering on offensive.

And I agree with a PP - your knowledge of the French Revolution is . . . spotty, at best.  Here's a hint - it was not about people with comfortable income having obstacles or obligations.  FFS.  [/quote]

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